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#1 outdoorsman110

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  • Favorite Lake or River:Potomac River
    Rappahannock River
    Shenandoah River
    Lake Abel
    Lake Curtis
    Motts Run Reservoir
    Lunga Reservoir
    Lake Anna

Posted April 11 2012 - 08:28 PM

Alright guys, I'm at the age where I should be sending out applications. I already know what I'm doing as a career, Law Enforcement. But right now I just need to get a steady income. I'm looking at Dick's Sporting Goods and Gander Mountain, nobody at dick's knows anything about bass fishing and I'd love to help customers with their selections. Gander Mountain has better pay, but also has wannabe bass fishermen that think they know it all. Any advice?
There is certainly something in angling that tends to produce a serenity of the mind. ~Washington Irving

#2 Zoff

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    Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia (Big variety of water types to fish)

    Staunton River, Altavista, Virginia (great Smallie fishing)

    Leesville Lake, Virginia (When it is not full of debris and the water level is where it should be)

    Ocean Anywhere but mostly off the Coast of NC (Kings and MahiMahi... Woohoo)

Posted April 11 2012 - 08:41 PM

For LEO... get your degree. 4 year if possible. 2 year definitely. If you get the 2 year, go to a Department that has career development programs so they will pay for your college. If you can get your 4 year... you can go to bigger/better agencies if you wish. I got my degree in criminal justice/psychology then choose to return to the town I grew up in for my LEO career.
Paul
"Why should we be in such desperate haste to succeed, and in such desperate enterprises? If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." ~ Henry David Thoreau ~ Walden
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#3 outdoorsman110

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  • My PB:Between 11-12 lbs
  • Favorite Bass:All three
  • Favorite Lake or River:Potomac River
    Rappahannock River
    Shenandoah River
    Lake Abel
    Lake Curtis
    Motts Run Reservoir
    Lunga Reservoir
    Lake Anna

Posted April 11 2012 - 08:44 PM

For LEO... get your degree. 4 year if possible. 2 year definitely. If you get the 2 year, go to a Department that has career development programs so they will pay for your college. If you can get your 4 year... you can go to bigger/better agencies if you wish. I got my degree in criminal justice/psychology then choose to return to the town I grew up in for my LEO career.

I'm looking at VSP, and possibly transferring to FBI. I'm probably gonna go get my bachelors in Criminology and Psychology and continue on once I'm with the VSP.
There is certainly something in angling that tends to produce a serenity of the mind. ~Washington Irving

#4 Zoff

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    Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia (Big variety of water types to fish)

    Staunton River, Altavista, Virginia (great Smallie fishing)

    Leesville Lake, Virginia (When it is not full of debris and the water level is where it should be)

    Ocean Anywhere but mostly off the Coast of NC (Kings and MahiMahi... Woohoo)

Posted April 11 2012 - 09:09 PM

Sounds like you have the plan mapped out. Good on ya!
Paul
"Why should we be in such desperate haste to succeed, and in such desperate enterprises? If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away." ~ Henry David Thoreau ~ Walden
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#5 outdoorsman110

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  • Favorite Lake or River:Potomac River
    Rappahannock River
    Shenandoah River
    Lake Abel
    Lake Curtis
    Motts Run Reservoir
    Lunga Reservoir
    Lake Anna

Posted April 11 2012 - 09:10 PM

Sounds like you have the plan mapped out. Good on ya!

Yessir!
There is certainly something in angling that tends to produce a serenity of the mind. ~Washington Irving

#6 BASSclary

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    Curtis Lake;
    Burke Lake.

Posted April 11 2012 - 10:04 PM

Work at gander mountain. If I had a car and didn't have lax i would. Plus you can give me a friends and family discount ! :D
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#7 tomustang

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Posted April 11 2012 - 10:53 PM

If you say gander has the mentality of workers at the place you are looking to work for, then the conflicting conversations wouldn't boad to well for you there.

#8 Bassn Blvd

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Posted April 11 2012 - 11:52 PM

Here's some friendly advice. The Feds won't hire without a 4 year degree. I would urge you to get something other than the basic criminology degree, they're a dime a dozen. Sure, the basic criminology degree will benefit you at the local level, but if you want an edge over other fed applicants, then pursue something other than just basic criminology. If you choose DEA then learn Spanish. If you're Spanish then learn English. If you can already speak both then learn a 3rd language.

Also, if you're serious about the feds, make sure you don't screw your credit up before applying.

#9 tomustang

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Posted April 12 2012 - 03:17 AM

If you choose DEA then learn Spanish.


Learn french, so they would put you on the northern border instead :Victory:

#10 Stasher1

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Posted April 12 2012 - 07:33 AM

Here's some friendly advice. The Feds won't hire without a 4 year degree. I would urge you to get something other than the basic criminology degree, they're a dime a dozen. Sure, the basic criminology degree will benefit you at the local level, but if you want an edge over other fed applicants, then pursue something other than just basic criminology. If you choose DEA then learn Spanish. If you're Spanish then learn English. If you can already speak both then learn a 3rd language.

Also, if you're serious about the feds, make sure you don't screw your credit up before applying.



The FBI likes accountants.
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Contrary to popular belief, "Shimano" is not the answer to every question.

#11 Zoff

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    Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia (Big variety of water types to fish)

    Staunton River, Altavista, Virginia (great Smallie fishing)

    Leesville Lake, Virginia (When it is not full of debris and the water level is where it should be)

    Ocean Anywhere but mostly off the Coast of NC (Kings and MahiMahi... Woohoo)

Posted April 12 2012 - 08:01 AM

They are correct about the 4 year degree. Get something in Sociology, Accounting, Psychology... something that will be useful outside LE. I choose Local LE because I could choose where I lived and not where they wanted to send me. Keep in mind that, in a LE job, you will work the crappiest hours. I all but gave up hunting and fishing for nearly 15 years because I could never get the time. I am now Administrative so I do not work nights, weekends, or holidays and my hours are 8a - 4p. Helps to have a degree. lol
Paul
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#12 outdoorsman110

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  • Favorite Bass:All three
  • Favorite Lake or River:Potomac River
    Rappahannock River
    Shenandoah River
    Lake Abel
    Lake Curtis
    Motts Run Reservoir
    Lunga Reservoir
    Lake Anna

Posted April 12 2012 - 08:40 AM

The FBI likes accountants.

I'm looking at detective work.
There is certainly something in angling that tends to produce a serenity of the mind. ~Washington Irving

#13 outdoorsman110

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  • My PB:Between 11-12 lbs
  • Favorite Bass:All three
  • Favorite Lake or River:Potomac River
    Rappahannock River
    Shenandoah River
    Lake Abel
    Lake Curtis
    Motts Run Reservoir
    Lunga Reservoir
    Lake Anna

Posted April 12 2012 - 08:41 AM

I'm already going through all the Spanish courses I can.
There is certainly something in angling that tends to produce a serenity of the mind. ~Washington Irving

#14 outdoorsman110

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  • Favorite Lake or River:Potomac River
    Rappahannock River
    Shenandoah River
    Lake Abel
    Lake Curtis
    Motts Run Reservoir
    Lunga Reservoir
    Lake Anna

Posted April 12 2012 - 08:42 AM

Then Arabic is next on my list.
There is certainly something in angling that tends to produce a serenity of the mind. ~Washington Irving

#15 Stasher1

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Posted April 12 2012 - 01:06 PM

I'm looking at detective work.



Much of what the FBI investigates is "white collar" crime, so knowledge of accounting is beneficial. I took a class entitled The Principles of Fraud Examination, and it was a real eye-opener. Definitely not as boring as you'd expect an accounting class to be.

I have a degree in Criminal Justice, and if I could do it all over again (or had started on this path when I was your age) I'd skip the Criminology. Sure, it's an interesting area of study, but local agancies typically don't care what your degree is in and the Federal LE agencies are generally looking for more well-rounded applicants.

As Bassn Blvd already stated, Criminology degrees are a dime a dozen, and pretty much useless outside of LE.
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us."  -  Ralph Waldo Emerson

Contrary to popular belief, "Shimano" is not the answer to every question.




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