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[GrundleLove]

Sac up. Life sucks sometimes. Jut be grateful you have a job in this economy and have skills that are needed by companies.

[Ima Bass Ninja]

i work in printing and bulk mailing. the work is always up and down. one week youre working 60 hours, the next youre working 30 hours and it doesnt look pretty going to the bank those slow weeks. but then again like you said, 20-25 hours every week wont support a family. for the time being i would slow down my pace some to pad my pockets a bit. in turn your company needs to realize some things. one, is the may need to lower their bids just to get you guys some work even if their profit is minimal. also, if they cant give you guys the work, they may need to let one or more of you go instead of stringing you along. or they need to split the work up more evenly amongst you. when work slows here, my boss will have people stay home without pay and some come in and work, the next day they will switch so atleast its fair to everyone, there is no employers pet getting all the hours while everyone else is scraping by...

then again, you may need to continue looking elsewhere for a job more suitable to your needs...

Wow...just wow....I really don't know where to start with this post. I probably should just shut my mouth and go about my business but i believe this type of thinking sets a bad example for other people that may have similar situations.

Raider the only thing that padding you pockets is gonna get you if your bosses find out is unemployed. How hard is it going to be with no income? And this may be a dumb question but have you tried asking your supervisors for more hours? Sometimes thats all it takes.

And Red....the cost a company suffers ALWAYS goes back to the consumers. Would you be ok if you hired an electrician or plumber or tradesman to work on your house and they slowed there work down to pad their pockets and sent you a high invoice because they needed the money? No i don't think you would be to pleased with that and probably wouldn't use there services again.

Also the company doesn't need to realize anything..If you don't like whats going on..... leave. Thats the great thing about America..we have a choice. We are not forced to work anywhere we don't want to. The only obligation the company has is to pay you for the hours you work...thats it..Companies don't survive by making no profit. if thats the goal the why bother to go through all the work to have one.

And as far as letting one go? What if that someone is Raider? Is it a good idea then?

I agree that all things being equal then the work should be split. But again its not your company, its there rules and you agreed to play by them when you took the job. If the rules have changed, or you think its unfair...leave. Its your choice.

Lastly , If there are bosses that are covering up there on mess by making the employees suffer who do you think they are gonna keep around them? The ones that help them or the ones that call them out? Sooner or later their bosses will figure it out and you may just be the person they replace him with.

Raider, you are obviously a intelligent individual and yes the situation you are in stinks. Trust me i know, I've been there. But i didn't get through it by working less. Actually, i had a pay decrease....yes decrease, 3 years ago because work got slow. And haven't seen a raise since. My hours have increased since then, but i don't justify working any less than my peak just because the company is struggling.. I have a choice.

The one question you need to ask yourself when working for an individual or a company is "what will make me happy" More hours? A raise? A promotion? Then ask yourself , what is gonna get me those things? Do you think slowing your work output is gonna get you there? And if none of those things are gonna make you happy then it is certainly time for a change.

I'm done ranting, and Raider i wish you the best of luck

[SoFlaBassAddict]

Wow...just wow....I really don't know where to start with this post. I probably should just shut my mouth and go about my business but i believe this type of thinking sets a bad example for other people that may have similar situations.

Raider the only thing that padding you pockets is gonna get you if your bosses find out is unemployed. How hard is it going to be with no income? And this may be a dumb question but have you tried asking your supervisors for more hours? Sometimes thats all it takes.

And Red....the cost a company suffers ALWAYS goes back to the consumers. Would you be ok if you hired an electrician or plumber or tradesman to work on your house and they slowed there work down to pad their pockets and sent you a high invoice because they needed the money? No i don't think you would be to pleased with that and probably wouldn't use there services again.

Also the company doesn't need to realize anything..If you don't like whats going on..... leave. Thats the great thing about America..we have a choice. We are not forced to work anywhere we don't want to. The only obligation the company has is to pay you for the hours you work...thats it..Companies don't survive by making no profit. if thats the goal the why bother to go through all the work to have one.

And as far as letting one go? What if that someone is Raider? Is it a good idea then?

I agree that all things being equal then the work should be split. But again its not your company, its there rules and you agreed to play by them when you took the job. If the rules have changed, or you think its unfair...leave. Its your choice.

Lastly , If there are bosses that are covering up there on mess by making the employees suffer who do you think they are gonna keep around them? The ones that help them or the ones that call them out? Sooner or later their bosses will figure it out and you may just be the person they replace him with.

Raider, you are obviously a intelligent individual and yes the situation you are in stinks. Trust me i know, I've been there. But i didn't get through it by working less. Actually, i had a pay decrease....yes decrease, 3 years ago because work got slow. And haven't seen a raise since. My hours have increased since then, but i don't justify working any less than my peak just because the company is struggling.. I have a choice.

The one question you need to ask yourself when working for an individual or a company is "what will make me happy" More hours? A raise? A promotion? Then ask yourself , what is gonna get me those things? Do you think slowing your work output is gonna get you there? And if none of those things are gonna make you happy then it is certainly time for a change.

I'm done ranting, and Raider i wish you the best of luck

Hard to really put it much better than that.

[preach4bass]

i work in printing and bulk mailing. the work is always up and down. one week youre working 60 hours, the next youre working 30 hours and it doesnt look pretty going to the bank those slow weeks. but then again like you said, 20-25 hours every week wont support a family. for the time being i would slow down my pace some to pad my pockets a bit.

That's the spirit that made America great! Forget all that junk about hard work, sacrifice, and doing things the right way. Just go "pad your pockets a bit"!

On a serious note, if you keep that attitude up, your employers will probably eventually help you find a more stable source of income.....unemployment.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Wow...just wow....I really don't know where to start with this post. I probably should just shut my mouth and go about my business but i believe this type of thinking sets a bad example for other people that may have similar situations.

Raider the only thing that padding you pockets is gonna get you if your bosses find out is unemployed. How hard is it going to be with no income? And this may be a dumb question but have you tried asking your supervisors for more hours? Sometimes thats all it takes.

And Red....the cost a company suffers ALWAYS goes back to the consumers. Would you be ok if you hired an electrician or plumber or tradesman to work on your house and they slowed there work down to pad their pockets and sent you a high invoice because they needed the money? No i don't think you would be to pleased with that and probably wouldn't use there services again.

Also the company doesn't need to realize anything..If you don't like whats going on..... leave. Thats the great thing about America..we have a choice. We are not forced to work anywhere we don't want to. The only obligation the company has is to pay you for the hours you work...thats it..Companies don't survive by making no profit. if thats the goal the why bother to go through all the work to have one.

And as far as letting one go? What if that someone is Raider? Is it a good idea then?

I agree that all things being equal then the work should be split. But again its not your company, its there rules and you agreed to play by them when you took the job. If the rules have changed, or you think its unfair...leave. Its your choice.

Lastly , If there are bosses that are covering up there on mess by making the employees suffer who do you think they are gonna keep around them? The ones that help them or the ones that call them out? Sooner or later their bosses will figure it out and you may just be the person they replace him with.

Raider, you are obviously a intelligent individual and yes the situation you are in stinks. Trust me i know, I've been there. But i didn't get through it by working less. Actually, i had a pay decrease....yes decrease, 3 years ago because work got slow. And haven't seen a raise since. My hours have increased since then, but i don't justify working any less than my peak just because the company is struggling.. I have a choice.

The one question you need to ask yourself when working for an individual or a company is "what will make me happy" More hours? A raise? A promotion? Then ask yourself , what is gonna get me those things? Do you think slowing your work output is gonna get you there? And if none of those things are gonna make you happy then it is certainly time for a change.

I'm done ranting, and Raider i wish you the best of luck

More hours and a raise would be wonderful. However none of those are really gonna make it all right again with them. Im kind of in a limbo state if you will. The job I was at got sold after the owners youngest son kept getting the company ran off of jobsites. It was a real bad deal, but you know life goes on. Plus the boss gave me the heads up it was coming, and kept me til the bitter end. This company hired me on about an hour before I recieved my lay off notice. I figured hey its a cut in pay, but at least its work. Now work is running slow due to what I can only call lack of effort to branch out some. The two people whose opinions matter the most here are dead set that branching out to bidded work will require thousands in equipment to do. Neither will really listen when we try and explain it to them either. Again though its their company not mine. I don't make the decisions on what we do.
Really and in truly though I'm probably not going to be satisfied until I'm back either doing construction or industrial. Commercial service work is definitely not for me. Especially the type that we are doing. Least I've learned more about other aspects of the trade. The knowledge gained is probably the biggest benefit to all this. Plus like I was told when I hired on it is the easiest job I have ever had.

Also let me clarify. Our customers are billed the same regardless of how long a job takes. 2hour minimum plus travel. After the 2hours it jumps to 4 hours plus travel, and so on. Material is a separate charge. I'm just talking about hours. The travel time is where the kicker comes in. minimum travel is 1hour. Even if it only takes 15 minutes to get to the job. So as an example: I Bill out 8hours for the day yet only get paid for 5 of those hours. I know that's where profit comes in.

[Raider Nation Fisher]

Update.
After talking with my boss today, apparently I didn't get away with anything. I was informed what I did was perfectly fine. He also said that until work picks up they prefer we slow down and take our time. He said that as long as we don't exceed our cash allotment on the job they are fine with it. Kinda wish he had told me this before.

[South FLA]

Update.
After talking with my boss today, apparently I didn't get away with anything. I was informed what I did was perfectly fine. He also said that until work picks up they prefer we slow down and take our time. He said that as long as we don't exceed our cash allotment on the job they are fine with it. Kinda wish he had told me this before.

Glad to hear that everything worked out.

After reading some of the post I can tell you that some people as employees don't understand the ordeals that their employer goes through and some employers don't fully appreciate their employees. With that said owning your own business especially since you have a trade job should be your long-term goal, but just remember when you make decisions to reflect back on your experience working for someone and being the employee. Empathy, communication, and transparency help employee/employer relations tremendously.

[Red Earth]

all of a sudden my post doesnt seem so ludicrous now does it?

[Ima Bass Ninja]

all of a sudden my post doesnt seem so ludicrous now does it?

No not really It's still just a ludicrous as the day you Posted it. There's a huge difference in having permission from your supervisiors to slow down than slowing down because you decide on your own that you need to pad your pockets.

[Root beer]

Anyone whose job charges by the hours are subjected to this dilemma. Lawyers, accountants, and those in the trades. With that said, it takes me HOURS to perform financial services. I'm not as smart as I think I am, thus, it takes me awhile.

[SirSnookalot]

Anyone whose job charges by the hours are subjected to this dilemma. Lawyers, accountants, and those in the trades. With that said, it takes me HOURS to perform financial services. I'm not as smart as I think I am, thus, it takes me awhile.

Does that mean I would be paying more for your incompetence?

[Root beer]

Does that mean I would be paying more for your incompetence?

Interpret at your own discretion

[flippin and pitchin]

How you handle yourself in the midst of a trial will define who you are.

[clayton86]

seen this had to add it lol

George Carlin one of the greatest comedians ever hands down R.I.P

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