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What do you use a copolymer line for?

Is it more like mono, or more like flouro?

Is it effective for topwater? Flipping? Crankbaits?

General info on where/when/what to use it with?

Thanks!

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For me it's like mono, I'll usually use it for cranking and heavy stuff.. I use 90's Suffix Copolymer ( I have a 2000yard roll )

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i also use the sufix copoly. Its on most my reels. I like it because its more manageable than fluoro, and a little less stretch than mono. Its also really cheap, i get a 300 yd spool for $5.

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What do you use a copolymer line for?

Is it more like mono, or more like flouro?

Is it effective for topwater? Flipping? Crankbaits?

General info on where/when/what to use it with?

Thanks!

I use it for fishing.

It's more like mono and flouro mixwd.

yes, sometimes and yes.

I use #8 Yozuri copolymer for most crank baits.

#10 Yozuri for Senkos, Flukes, large/deep dive crank baits and most worms.

#12 Yozuri for most jigs and some worms (depends on lake)

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I use it for everything. I have 6 baitcast and 2 spinning rigs for bass fishing. 12# or 15# CXX on the baitcast, 6# CXX on the spinning. It is strong, abrasion resistant, offers decent sensitivity, and behaves well when treated with KVD Line and Lure.

EDIT: It is also cheap!

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I have Yozuri Hybrid on all of my setups. For me, its been an excellent choice for anything Im throwing.

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copolymer is mono plain and simple but some are better than others. I found a copoly line that has more charateristics of flouro than mono but it is mono. Cajun clear lightning gets a bad rep because it is cheap but also because people that don't read the label and use it due to price don't realize it is meant exclusivly for baitcasting reels. It is clear like flouro, impurities are removed and I believe it as it is clearer than most mono line, it is extremely abrasion resistant and has the least amount of stretch I ever saw in a mono but it doesn't handle well which is why you don't use it on spinning reels. Another good one and my favorite for spinning and casting is Silver Thread AN40, this is very soft supple line that does not have much memory and is very tough, it has about the same stretch and abrasion resistance of Trilene XL but I would say it holds up better over a longer period than the trilene. I consider copolymer a better grade of mono, it is still nylon so you call it mono but it doesn't matter because I use the stuff every day.

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Well I didnt have much luck(line management) with straight 10# YZHUS on my SupremeXT's so basically just started using the struff for leader material with braid main-line. The 10# did suprize me though when my size 4 hook got snagged I pulled and pulled, line didnt give, but the hook bent and came loose. Ive never really used leader but this gives me some confidence in the line and my knot strength.

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Yo-Zuri Hybrid is a copolymer blend of nylon and fluorocarbon, bonded not coated. The combination results in a line which is stronger than most with an equivalent diameter. #6 has a width of .010" and a breaking strength of 11.9 lbs. The line is noticably more manageable than pure fluorocarbon.

WHY IS YO-ZURI HYBRID™ BETTER THAN OTHER FISHING LINES?

•Strength : Because of the blend of nylon and fluorocarbon our line breaks at a much higher test than listed (see chart).

•Stretch : Hybrid has a lower stretch because of the addition of fluorocarbon. The nylon allows for cast ability. This gives Hybrid more hook setting power.

•Sensitivity : The fluorocarbon blend transfers activity or “feeling” much faster than regular fishing lines. This increased transmission speed allows an angler to feel and react to more bites.

•Wet Strength : Hybrid doesn't absorb water and as a result retains 100% of its dry knot and tensile strength. Regular fishing lines can absorb water which can weaken line up to 30%!

•UV Resistance : Hybrid's fluorocarbon qualities allow it to resist UV light which can weaken line and shorten its durability. Hybrid stays stronger, longer. This Hybrid durability allows the line to last four to five times longer than regular fishing lines.

•Casting Distance : Hybrid's slick finish allows it to easily slide through the guides causing little resistance during the cast and increases distance. The nylon qualities of Hybrid allow it to be softer and more supple line for distance casting.

•Low Visibility : Hybrid's blend of fluorocarbon and nylon allows it to have lower light refractory which means less visibility underwater.

•Abrasion Resistance : The hard, smooth outer feel created by the blend of fluorocarbon and nylon of Hybrid helps resist abrasion from rocks, wrecks, snags, or sharp toothed fish.

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You can't paint all copoly with the same brush. You can pretty much use them for all your fishing.

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based on the reviews/recommendation of RW and others here, I tried the yo-zuri US a few years ago on all my spinning reels.

i love it. i use the 6 & 8lb both. with KVD line conditioner it works really well. strength is way above the rating.

i use it for all applications...cranking, worms, topwater...i can't afford specific set ups for every type of fishing so i have to use some for all around and i use co-poly on all those

i also picked up some McCoy copolymer last year on sale and really like it too...

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I use 25# CXX with all my big swimbaits. It is stiffer than big game lets say, and has less stretch. I regularly straighten out #2 Owner ST-36's to get lures back, its got some serious strength.

NGaHB

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copolymer is mono plain and simple but some are better than others.

You are aware of what the word mono means I hope. Fluorocarbon is a mono where co-poly is not a true mono. Just throwin that out there.

That being said, I've used co-poly for years and have never had a real complaint with it. You kind of get the best of both worlds with it. I doubt I'll ever go out fishing without it on a couple of reels.

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Copolymer is a mono filament line made with two different materials. To further blur the picture, there are also coated lines, like Yo-Zuri Hybrid and P-Line Fluoroclear.

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Ah, extrusion exclusion illusion, I like it...

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Does Yo-Zuri Hybrid sink?

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Copolymer is a mono filament line made with two different materials. To further blur the picture, there are also coated lines, like Yo-Zuri Hybrid and P-Line Fluoroclear.

Yo-Zuri Hybrid is bonded, not coated.

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OK, "bonded" then. Only adds to the blurring. Personally, I don't see the difference. Sounds like marketing terms to me.

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I use it for everything. I have 6 baitcast and 2 spinning rigs for bass fishing. 12# or 15# CXX on the baitcast, 6# CXX on the spinning. It is strong, abrasion resistant, offers decent sensitivity, and behaves well when treated with KVD Line and Lure.

EDIT: It is also cheap!

CXX is a copoly? I thought it was just plain old mono. I looked at pline.com and i didnt see anywhere that it said it was a colpoly? Still love cxx either way!

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Yo-Zuri Hybrid is a copolymer blend of nylon and fluorocarbon, bonded not coated. The combination results in a line which is stronger than most with an equivalent diameter. #6 has a width of .010" and a breaking strength of 11.9 lbs. The line is noticably more manageable than pure fluorocarbon.

WHY IS YO-ZURI HYBRID™ BETTER THAN OTHER FISHING LINES?

•Strength : Because of the blend of nylon and fluorocarbon our line breaks at a much higher test than listed (see chart).

•Stretch : Hybrid has a lower stretch because of the addition of fluorocarbon. The nylon allows for cast ability. This gives Hybrid more hook setting power.

•Sensitivity : The fluorocarbon blend transfers activity or “feeling” much faster than regular fishing lines. This increased transmission speed allows an angler to feel and react to more bites.

•Wet Strength : Hybrid doesn't absorb water and as a result retains 100% of its dry knot and tensile strength. Regular fishing lines can absorb water which can weaken line up to 30%!

•UV Resistance : Hybrid's fluorocarbon qualities allow it to resist UV light which can weaken line and shorten its durability. Hybrid stays stronger, longer. This Hybrid durability allows the line to last four to five times longer than regular fishing lines.

•Casting Distance : Hybrid's slick finish allows it to easily slide through the guides causing little resistance during the cast and increases distance. The nylon qualities of Hybrid allow it to be softer and more supple line for distance casting.

•Low Visibility : Hybrid's blend of fluorocarbon and nylon allows it to have lower light refractory which means less visibility underwater.

•Abrasion Resistance : The hard, smooth outer feel created by the blend of fluorocarbon and nylon of Hybrid helps resist abrasion from rocks, wrecks, snags, or sharp toothed fish.

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Test

Yeah, that pretty much says it all.

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CXX is a copoly? I thought it was just plain old mono. I looked at pline.com and i didnt see anywhere that it said it was a colpoly? Still love cxx either way!

Yes it is a copolymer. I could not find where it says it either. It used to say it on the spools. Go to the TW website and click-on P-LineCXX.

EDIT: I asked P-Line for their description of the CXX product. I will post their response.

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Does Yo-Zuri Hybrid sink?

yes, its like a fluoro

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I began using Silver Thread co-poly from the time Bagleys began importing it from Japan. I used nothing else, eventually moving from the blue label to the SST/AN40. This changed last year when in a fit of madness I bought a spool of Seguar InvizX in 20lb for pitching jigs, and actually won a spool of STREN Fluoro in an online contest in 17lb. I switched to PowerPro braid on my spinning rigs for dropshot/shakeyhead fishing. So far, I'm not sure the fluoro is a bit better than the AN40, although I do like the PP on the spinning tackle. It wouldn't bother me a bit if I had to go back to copoly on all my baitcasters. In the years I've used it, it's been supple, tough, and I never lost a fish due to line breakage.

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Yes it is a copolymer. I could not find where it says it either. It used to say it on the spools. Go to the TW website and click-on P-LineCXX.

EDIT: I asked P-Line for their description of the CXX product. I will post their response.

Ok. Was just curious because p line offers another line called c21 copolymer. Didnt understand why they would have 2 copolys and only identify 1....

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