Advice Need On Frogs And Toads
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, Jul 02 2012 12:59 AM
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#1
Posted July 02 2012 - 12:59 AM
Hey guys, i am a shore fisherman and usually fish the city ponds. Well the temperature is about to get warmer and i know that frogs and toads would be great at this time of the year, but the only problem i have is i dont know how to fish it that well. so my questions are how do u guys work these baits in open water and near cover and also when to use the frog and when to use the toad because they both are different types of baits.
#2
Posted July 02 2012 - 04:43 AM
I trim the "legs" on the hollow body ones to about 1 3/4 inches and tip low and twitch it back whether it walks or just pops forward the variance in the retrieve I believe is adding realism, and I don't throw toads I don't think ? I use black and white and that's about it for frogs. And I use them all day If the bite is good, open water early slop/ pads midday and both in the evening
#3
Posted July 02 2012 - 06:29 AM
I have never had much success with them, but I would think you would mainly work them along shorlines and slop. Never would have thought of frogs in open water. I would just try twitching them in these two places but try working them faster in open water.
Bass - Largemouth - 11-12 pounds, Smallmouth - 2 pounds, Rock - 1/2 pound, Spotted- 1/4 lb
Catfish - channel - 10-11 pounds, Bullhead - 4-5 pounds, Flathead - 2-3 pounds
Carp - Common - around 30-35 pounds
Trout - Rainbow - 6 pounds, Brown - 2 pounds, Dolly Varden - 3.5 pounds, Brook - 1/4 pound
Catfish - channel - 10-11 pounds, Bullhead - 4-5 pounds, Flathead - 2-3 pounds
Carp - Common - around 30-35 pounds
Trout - Rainbow - 6 pounds, Brown - 2 pounds, Dolly Varden - 3.5 pounds, Brook - 1/4 pound
#4
Posted July 02 2012 - 07:11 AM
Spro frog bronze eye for me. Rod tip down twitch it pop it hop it. Very effective in open water along the shore timber lay downs slop muck weeds. Deadly over weeds. Open water is very productive when the bass our hitting top water. There really is no wrong way to fish it just vary your retrive and think realisim what do frogs do and imitate that. Good luck Oh yea big bass producer .
#5
Posted July 02 2012 - 11:44 AM
First of all you need the proper setup for frogging. Especially if you are throwing to scum/pads. I use 30# braid (no stretch is key when froggin') and a medium/heavy, fast action rod.
Cast, and when your frog hits the water, dont start your retrieve right away...let it sit for 5-10 secs. Sometimes the bass will hear/feel it spash down and it may take a while to locate it. If there is no explosion then start with a quick pop of the rod on semi-slack line. The line needs to be semi-slack before, and right after the rod "pop". This will make your frog "walk" in open water (float side to side). Do this all the way back to the boat/shore. Mix it up to...pop pop pause...pop pause...etc.
As far as colors I mainly use white. If the water is clear get a realistic frog like KVD Sexy Frog. they are pricey but well made and worth it.
Now as far as setting the hook, that will take some practice. Each bass (IMHO) that hits your frog will do so in a unique way. Sometimes they will hit your frog just to stun it and then circle back for the kill. When this happens you need to let it sit. KEEP YOUR EYE IN THE FROG!! Only set if you see your frog go under of feel pressure. Sometimes the bass will jump right out of the water and NAIL your frog. When this happens...again....what until you feel the pressure on the other end. Some people say count to three but is bad advice. Alot of my catches on froggin have been with a split second hook set. Some scent will help the fish hold on just a bit longer to aid in hook sets.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
WARNING: FROGGING IS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE AND TIME/THOUGHT CONSUMING!!!
Cast, and when your frog hits the water, dont start your retrieve right away...let it sit for 5-10 secs. Sometimes the bass will hear/feel it spash down and it may take a while to locate it. If there is no explosion then start with a quick pop of the rod on semi-slack line. The line needs to be semi-slack before, and right after the rod "pop". This will make your frog "walk" in open water (float side to side). Do this all the way back to the boat/shore. Mix it up to...pop pop pause...pop pause...etc.
As far as colors I mainly use white. If the water is clear get a realistic frog like KVD Sexy Frog. they are pricey but well made and worth it.
Now as far as setting the hook, that will take some practice. Each bass (IMHO) that hits your frog will do so in a unique way. Sometimes they will hit your frog just to stun it and then circle back for the kill. When this happens you need to let it sit. KEEP YOUR EYE IN THE FROG!! Only set if you see your frog go under of feel pressure. Sometimes the bass will jump right out of the water and NAIL your frog. When this happens...again....what until you feel the pressure on the other end. Some people say count to three but is bad advice. Alot of my catches on froggin have been with a split second hook set. Some scent will help the fish hold on just a bit longer to aid in hook sets.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
WARNING: FROGGING IS HIGHLY ADDICTIVE AND TIME/THOUGHT CONSUMING!!!
#6
Posted July 02 2012 - 11:50 AM
started frogging my slef this year nothing like wathcing a bass just destroy your frog all you need to do is just slow down and pop like they said youll be slayin them in no time.
#7
Posted July 02 2012 - 01:42 PM
quick question what length of rod should be used for froggin or topwaer in general
#8
Posted July 02 2012 - 08:43 PM
you want a long rod that has the backbone to rip them out of the scum, weeds and lily pads. it all depends on how far you wannt cast the longer the rod the further the cast just make sure you have a high speed reel 7.2.1 and some heavy line 30 pound briaded are higher. i go all the way up to 80 in some areas just to be safe.
#9
Posted July 03 2012 - 11:12 AM
thnx alot guys, i will be trying to use the frogs this weekends at a local pond that have alot of covers. thnx for the advices
#10
Posted July 04 2012 - 01:34 PM
over the last week, I have caught more quality bass on a frog than anything else. At this particular lake, I could bring JUST that and catch nice fish. It is a small lake maybe around 8'-10' depth. isolated patches of lilly pads and docks. I throw it at all the patches of pads and docks.
My favorite time is dusk but Ive caught fish in the AM and around noon. REally what matters is pads or matted weeds. Something a frog would "walk" on where a bass could nail it from underneath. I throw it ONTO shore if I can and walk it into the water. twitch twitch stop. wait. slowly pull it about 6 inches forward. stop. twitch twiBAM!!!!!
thats usually where it happens ; )
If youre not having luck with a frog youre throwing it in the wrong places or reeling it too fast. Just remember: "throw it in the greens" and "twitch twitch wait".
Ive noticed the frog produces quality fish on a consistent basis more than any other lure.
My favorite time is dusk but Ive caught fish in the AM and around noon. REally what matters is pads or matted weeds. Something a frog would "walk" on where a bass could nail it from underneath. I throw it ONTO shore if I can and walk it into the water. twitch twitch stop. wait. slowly pull it about 6 inches forward. stop. twitch twiBAM!!!!!
thats usually where it happens ; )
If youre not having luck with a frog youre throwing it in the wrong places or reeling it too fast. Just remember: "throw it in the greens" and "twitch twitch wait".
Ive noticed the frog produces quality fish on a consistent basis more than any other lure.
#11
Posted July 04 2012 - 01:36 PM
and the Jackall Iobee frog is the best I've used. The body shape and softness makes actually landing the blow-ups a lot more frequent. Color doesnt matter. Light colored belly is all I look for.
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