Trolling???
#1
Posted August 18 2012 - 09:42 PM
#2
Posted August 18 2012 - 11:26 PM
tie a shad rap rapala or a rapala dt 10 to dt 16 and burn gasoline and wait for the fish to do all the work. this is exactly what my uncle does. run around with those baits on and he catches something.
I knew of a guy fishing structure that got around 50 bass in my home lake and that is extremely tough on my high pressured waters. work on learning structure and cover and you will be much better than a guy trolling.
Once again this is my humble opinion.
#3
Posted August 18 2012 - 11:40 PM
not sure if that helps you any or not
#4
Posted August 18 2012 - 11:48 PM
#5
Posted August 18 2012 - 11:53 PM
Personally I'd rather get poked in the eye with a sharp stick then have to troll because it bores me to tears but I have done it and if you know what you're doing it can be far more effective than casting the same baits you're trolling. It's great for coving lots of water and picking up scattered fish or fishing a bait in water way deeper than it would normally reach. I've had my best success trolling with number 5 or 7 shad raps or glass raps. I wasn't trolling for bass but they can't seem to leave those things alone at time.
#6
Posted August 19 2012 - 03:00 AM
#7
Posted August 19 2012 - 07:48 AM
#8
Posted August 19 2012 - 09:39 AM
Lazy losers? That description may be true for most people that drag lures around, but there are many that know what they are doing. Proper trolling is a lost art these days. I remember stories written about Buck Perry and his spoonplugs back in the 60's and 70's. It was a way to learn the lake's structure before there were depth finders. The only times i troll is when i'm eating my lunch (i can't be on a lake without a bait in the water) or when i just can't seem to catch anything while casting...
.. and Bill Murphy too.
#9
Posted August 19 2012 - 09:45 AM
I have tho. Usually with a spinner bait or crank bait, occasionally a worm or creature bait
Trolling will catch a few fish but most important it will FIND fish.
More often than not if you catch one trolling there is more there. I always drop back and throw a worm or swim bait where I got the hookup and usually catch more.
#10
Posted August 19 2012 - 12:17 PM
I fish a reservoir thats 266 acres when full(usually its not full). I have also been to another lake thats around 150 acres when full. The lakes in PR are not big by any means. not compated to the 100k + acre lake you guys have in the states, the okeechobees and the great lakes. the guys that go trolling here do so because they dont want to cast and recast. I have personally talked to a bunch of them. they think its a hassle and most of them are bucket fishermen to begin with. a lap around the lake takes less than one hour.
to be continued baby is crying
#11
Posted August 19 2012 - 02:33 PM
Anytime I take out a new fisherman I often troll crank baits to cover water at a controlled depth where bass are located. If you are using deep diving crank baits at 18' you use your sonar to keep the lures between 15 to 20', you discover exactly how deep that lure runs at the speed you troll; a slow walking speed for example. Just run the lure next to the boat to determine what speed the lure runs good at. The advantage is the bass will usually hook themselves when trolling and gives the new angler experience in feeling strikes verse hitting the bottom or snagging weeds. Within a few hours you can learn several weeks worth of crank bait experience.
Strolling or dragging soft plastic worm on a C-rig or slip shot jrig through bass you have metered is also a good way to teach new worm anglers what a worm bite feels like. You control the proper depth with the sonar and you also know the speed is right because you are using the same rig and can feel the same structure as the angler you are teaching. A few hours of strolling is valuable, then you can cast and retrieve knowing the angler has a good idea what to expect.
Tom
#12
Posted August 19 2012 - 03:39 PM
#13
Posted August 19 2012 - 09:20 PM
dont go trolling. IMHO trolling is for lazy losers that want to have everything easy. It involves very little technique and it gets old really fast. not fun at all.
IMHO, don't listen to losers who know nothing about trolling and are narrow minded to learning different techniques.
#14
Posted August 20 2012 - 12:59 AM
here is a quick questions to those in favor of trolling:
where is the sport in trolling a 200 acre lake over an over and over until the fish find your bait and hook themselves? where is the challenge?
so you have to worry about depth and that is controlled by speed, you have to control the speed of the boat. your rod can sit on a rod holder. VS casting at the right spot, controlling the fall(if any) working the rod, cranking the reel at the rate you want it and setting the hook. dont get me started on locating the fish vs running around and stumble on them.
i can post and excerpt from the in fisherman series against trolling they ripped buck perry apart(well the person who wrote it). I bet many of the legends of the sport find it to be a low way of fishing. its just a step behind throwing a net and catching stringers.
#15
Posted August 20 2012 - 01:16 AM
my poor 6 weeks old baby is sick
here is a quick questions to those in favor of trolling:
where is the sport in trolling a 200 acre lake over an over and over until the fish find your bait and hook themselves? where is the challenge?
so you have to worry about depth and that is controlled by speed, you have to control the speed of the boat. your rod can sit on a rod holder. VS casting at the right spot, controlling the fall(if any) working the rod, cranking the reel at the rate you want it and setting the hook. dont get me started on locating the fish vs running around and stumble on them.
i can post and excerpt from the in fisherman series against trolling they ripped buck perry apart(well the person who wrote it). I bet many of the legends of the sport find it to be a low way of fishing. its just a step behind throwing a net and catching stringers.
You still have to figure out what depth the fish are holding at, what areas they're holding in, what they're feeding on, what speed you need to troll, and a host of other variables, just like when you're casting and retrieving. I get what you're saying, sort of anyways. It sounds to me like you're talking about people that just pick the first bait out of their box, put it in the water and just drag it around and hope they stumble across a fish, a lot like a lot of people do when casting and retrieving a bait.
However, some people have it down to a science. In a larger body of water I might even argue that it's more difficult to troll because you're structure fishing, not casting to visible cover like most anglers do. So you have to be good at reading your electronics, topo maps, and knowing where the fish should be on a given day and what baits will catch them where they're at. Personally I can't stand trolling for anything. Probably why catching marlin or sailfish has never appealed much to me, because trolling is one of the main techniques to catch them.
I'm getting a hint of "holier than thou" mindset, like a fish caught trolling is somehow less of a fish, like some guys think of livebait/artificials or flyfishing/traditional gear. Either that or someone is trolling your lake and catching fish while you're struggling and it's hurting your pride.
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