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jakebwallace

Targeting Asian Carp (Silver Carp)

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i would be up for killing every living thing in the river and then restocking. The stretch of river by me is called "the sauger capitol of the world." Host plenty of tourneys (cabelas tourney is there next weekend). So i understand that killing all ther walleye and sauger is not an option. But its gotten out of hand. We used to catch 100+  white bass in a few hours. I have caught 3 in the past 4 years. Thats sad IMHO. Starved Rock state park is 10 miles from me. Well hike to the top of the rock and as far as the eyes can see, you can see the pods of asian carp. Its reall crazy when you see a barge docking and revving his engines, the whole area becomes full of jumping carp.

 

Luckily the Cumberland in Nashville has not gotten to overpopulated yet. I have gone to the Ohio and Tennessee Rivers and the amount of Silvers held in those waters is overwhelming. 

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Typical response of F&G - nada.  For all their posturing about caring for the resource . . . . they have no real motivation to act effectively.

 

If they had real incentives then they would allow commercial overfishing for this species or electroshocking/culling to keep the numbers down to levels where other species are sustainable.

 

Whether these quick "off the cuff" suggestions are feasible or not, if a private party, individual or corporate, owned the fishery, then something effective would be done.  When no one owns it, no one cares enough.

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Typical response of F&G - nada.  For all their posturing about caring for the resource . . . . they have no real motivation to act effectively.

 

If they had real incentives then they would allow commercial overfishing for this species or electroshocking/culling to keep the numbers down to levels where other species are sustainable.

 

Whether these quick "off the cuff" suggestions are feasible or not, if a private party, individual or corporate, owned the fishery, then something effective would be done.  When no one owns it, no one cares enough.

 

They have no motivation because they work for the government. Let the private sector find the solution and everyone is happy, except the government.

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Luckily the Cumberland in Nashville has not gotten to overpopulated yet.

 

 

if they are in the water they are over populated, you just don't know it yet.

 

they are truly worse than locust.....they breed, destroy, and move on.

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They have no motivation because they work for the government. Let the private sector find the solution and everyone is happy, except the government.

 

Yes, but so long as no one owns it, the private sector is irrelevant. 

Only when a property right is created can the private sector find the solution.

 

My point is that the absence of ownership is the problem.

 

These are public waters, regulated by public officials whose incentives are not sufficiently coincident with the fishery. 

 

If someone owned the fishery, then that owner would be more effective in dealing with an invasive species that is destroying his asset.  There would be more coincidence of what's good for the fishery and what's good for management.

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our stretch of river has become a ghost town for game fish. It used to be called the "sauger capitol of the world." Every year the MWC opens there tourney here. 3 years ago, 660+ fish were weighed in. This year, 220 something. Only 10 of 132 teams brought in a limit in 2 days. And these guys are some of the best walleye/sauger fishermen in the Midwest. To me, the worst thing is when they die and wash up onto the boat ramp area. It will be 90+ degrees and there will be hundreds of dead carp everywhere. You almost have to hold your breath. I have never seen any animal reproduce and explode like this. I used to be able to cast net for shad, now I cast net the feeder creeks and will get nets full of baby carp. They are really good catfish bait. Game fish are eating the young, but there is soooooo many, that it does no damage.

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