Fishing

Jump to content




fishing

bass fishing
 
bass fish

fishing forum

bass fishing

bass fishing

fishing tips

Fishing Tips
 
fishing
 
fishing

bass fishing

fishing

fishing
fish for bass

fishing tips

fish


Photo

Any Pelican Bass Raider Owners Out There?


  • Please log in to reply
1514 replies to this topic

#256 jaaron01

jaaron01

    Minnow

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 98 posts
  • LocationBellevue, NE
  • My PB:Please Choose
  • Favorite Bass:Please Choose

Posted July 09 2011 - 05:19 PM

My advice is put the trolling motor up front, and find something to make a rudder for the back. Seems most trolling motors are better suited to pull, then push. Just my couple weeks experience, but seems at the lake those guys with the motor in the back are constantly fighting trying to keep the front end going were they want it to. I fish on a large electric only lake, so I see everything from canoe's to jon boats. I have no problem pointing my boat in whichever direction, with the rudder installed, she goes were I tell her to, expecially with a wind blowing, and the rear end follows.

I was thinking of a drift sock as well, but no one seems to have any experience with them, or at least there not sharing.

#257 Red

Red

    I Live to Fish.

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,514 posts
  • LocationWaco, TX...USA
  • My PB:Between 8-9 lbs
  • Favorite Bass:Largemouth

Posted July 09 2011 - 07:29 PM

No experience with a drift sock. I have used an anchor. The mushroom kind did not hold at all with any kind of wind. The "grab" style grabbed too well and I had to cut the rope, twice with that style. Best bet, motor up front, batery in back, rudder in back. With this set up, I sit closer to the front, evens out the weight of the battery I think. Also, if your water levels are down, the fish aren't biting....head back into coves where people bank fish and big boats can't get to, look for shiney stuff in the cover and trees. I found $60 worth of hard baits in about a 30 foot stretch of bank the other day!!

Cliff
Waco, Tx....USA

#258 twors

twors

    I Love Bass Fishing!

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 188 posts
  • LocationLawrence, KS

Posted July 11 2011 - 03:21 PM

Finally got my new Bass Hunter "Bass Baby" finished up. I've had her out for three outing so far and everything seems good. This boat has deeper skinnier toons and I find it tracks very well without the need for a rudder. I've outfitter the boat with a 55lb Minn Kota traxxis trolling motor with variable speed. I truely love the variable speed and tilt handle also allows to fish standing with good control of the trolling motor without bending over....I'am 6'1" and 235lb. If forced to buy again I probably would buy the 45lb model and save a hundred bucks. The design of this hull is not ment for speed and I think there is a point of disminishing returns when it comes to appling power to these boats. That said....my boat tops out at 3.4 mph on my garmin hand held GPS. The battery is a group 27 marine jobbie from wallyworld and to connected to trolling motor with 8 AWG wire and anderson connectors. I have a big foot switch for the trolling motor but haven't installed yet as I wanted to get the placement just right. These boats are all about weight and balance. It took me two trips to dial in on seat post location before installing the pedestal base. The floor was covered in .5 ply and carpet. The pedestal base is two pieces of .75 ply glued together....short power rise post and butt seat. Battery box is screwed to ply floor....no holes drilled into plastic hull as of yet.

This boat has built in wheels to roll it around which is great however not so great trying to load into the truck by yourself as the boat wants to roll out before you can position yourself to lift the rear of the boat to slide into truck. I made a simple hook from a piece of stainless rod to hold the boat so I could reposition without having the boat slide out. I tried ramping the boat into the truck....no good, plastic wheels slide around the ramps. Takes far more energy than just dead lifting the thing in to the truck. I have plans for a trailer on down the road.

Here are some pictures of my new rig....

Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image

#259 B-ASSman

B-ASSman

    Minnow

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 12 posts
  • My PB:Please Choose
  • Favorite Bass:All three

Posted July 11 2011 - 11:52 PM

Here are some pictures of my new rig....

Posted Image

Very Sharp Looking! Nicely done

Funny- but I am fabricating a similar floor for mine- cept I was considering using the Ol' green indoor /outdoor turf instead of a marine carpet.
I like the pedestal look too....but i need a high back to stay comfy

How was it without the rudder-
If only I had any welding skills.....i hate to spend that kind of money on scrap metal

#260 twors

twors

    I Love Bass Fishing!

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 188 posts
  • LocationLawrence, KS

Posted July 12 2011 - 03:01 AM

I don't think I need a rudder on this boat. The toons are narrower compared to the other boats I looked at and the toons ride deep in the water. She seems to track well. The boat does not like white caps.....water will slash over the front and you will get wet....trust me on this one!

My floor is .5 ply but I get add three 1X3 runners to the bottom to provide a air gap to help any moisture to evaporate.

#261 jaaron01

jaaron01

    Minnow

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 98 posts
  • LocationBellevue, NE
  • My PB:Please Choose
  • Favorite Bass:Please Choose

Posted July 12 2011 - 08:34 AM

Your boat must ride a little lower in the water than mine. I set a good foot above the water, and I've not had any thing come close to getting in the boat. Or your boat is much heavier than mine with the additional ply.

Another thing I see is the front of your pontoons seem more block shaped, as mine are V shaped. Might be why water comes over the front.

#262 twors

twors

    I Love Bass Fishing!

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 188 posts
  • LocationLawrence, KS

Posted July 12 2011 - 12:28 PM

My boat does ride low in the water....certainly no foot. The ply floor, pedestal seat and carpet probably added 40lbs over the stock seating setup. I was kinda concerned about weight but doesn't seem that big of a deal as this boat is fished with just me alone. The front of the toons are more square than others and I'am sure it has something to do with water over the front and my lower than expected speed of 3.4mph even with the mother of all trolling motors. Water over the front was from a nasty little storm that I got caught in about 600 yards away from the ramp. The wind picked up very fast and white capped the lake in just a few minutes....I was traveling aganist the wind, waves where taller than the boat and I did take on a couple gallons of water before reaching the ramp. I never felt in danger really other than the lightning of course. I never intended to operate this boat in these conditions but it did happen and will probably happen again at some time. She is no 20ft Ranger for sure but I like her all the same....

#263 jaaron01

jaaron01

    Minnow

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 98 posts
  • LocationBellevue, NE
  • My PB:Please Choose
  • Favorite Bass:Please Choose

Posted July 12 2011 - 12:43 PM

I do like your setup with the carpet and seat, that looks awesome. Every trip I make out in my little boat, I come up with a new idea on the set-up. I'm just vetting ideas at this point to make sure its what I want, before I do much customization. Keep the photos com'in.




#264 Red

Red

    I Live to Fish.

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,514 posts
  • LocationWaco, TX...USA
  • My PB:Between 8-9 lbs
  • Favorite Bass:Largemouth

Posted July 12 2011 - 04:58 PM

Finally got my new Bass Hunter "Bass Baby" finished up. I've had her out for three outing so far and everything seems good. This boat has deeper skinnier toons and I find it tracks very well without the need for a rudder. I've outfitter the boat with a 55lb Minn Kota traxxis trolling motor with variable speed. I truely love the variable speed and tilt handle also allows to fish standing with good control of the trolling motor without bending over....I'am 6'1" and 235lb. If forced to buy again I probably would buy the 45lb model and save a hundred bucks. The design of this hull is not ment for speed and I think there is a point of disminishing returns when it comes to appling power to these boats. That said....my boat tops out at 3.4 mph on my garmin hand held GPS. The battery is a group 27 marine jobbie from wallyworld and to connected to trolling motor with 8 AWG wire and anderson connectors. I have a big foot switch for the trolling motor but haven't installed yet as I wanted to get the placement just right. These boats are all about weight and balance. It took me two trips to dial in on seat post location before installing the pedestal base. The floor was covered in .5 ply and carpet. The pedestal base is two pieces of .75 ply glued together....short power rise post and butt seat. Battery box is screwed to ply floor....no holes drilled into plastic hull as of yet.

This boat has built in wheels to roll it around which is great however not so great trying to load into the truck by yourself as the boat wants to roll out before you can position yourself to lift the rear of the boat to slide into truck. I made a simple hook from a piece of stainless rod to hold the boat so I could reposition without having the boat slide out. I tried ramping the boat into the truck....no good, plastic wheels slide around the ramps. Takes far more energy than just dead lifting the thing in to the truck. I have plans for a trailer on down the road.

Here are some pictures of my new rig....

Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image
Posted Image



Very nice job!! I have considered adding a pedestal seat like you did. I am pretty happy with my rig as it is though so I haven't put much thought into it. I got caught in a storm once like you did. I had enough water in the boat I had to empty it and flip it. I couldn't lift it onto the truck....too heavy!
Waco, Tx....USA

#265 B-ASSman

B-ASSman

    Minnow

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 12 posts
  • My PB:Please Choose
  • Favorite Bass:All three

Posted July 12 2011 - 10:38 PM

[
This boat has built in wheels to roll it around which is great however not so great trying to load into the truck by yourself as the boat wants to roll out before you can position yourself to lift the rear of the boat to slide into truck. I made a simple hook from a piece of stainless rod to hold the boat so I could reposition without having the boat slide out. I tried ramping the boat into the truck....no good, plastic wheels slide around the ramps.
Posted Image

Regarding loading into the pickup
I am making 2 - 7ft long 4x8's wrapped with carpet to assist ramping/sliding my rig into the bed
if u used them on edge it might prop high enough to eliminate the wheel problem u have

#266 Mikeandwife91

Mikeandwife91

    Fry

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 1 posts

Posted July 15 2011 - 09:16 PM

Hi guys, Mike here. I got the wife a 10ft. Pelican for Christmas (honest, that's what she wanted). I wanted to tell everyone about a tool out there that makes adding things to your boat a piece of cake. It is called a Rivnut Tool. It installs a threaded insert into the plastic (or metal) just like you were putting a pop rivet in there, except you can screw a bolt into it. You place a Rivnut in the tool and put it into a hole drilled the same size as the nut. You then squeeze the handle together like a rivet gun and it compresses the nut so that it sandwiches the plastic between the Rivnut. It cannot spin either. I have put a few things in such as an oar holder and rod holders without any screws going into just plastic. You can put a nut in as small as an 8-32 or as big as a 1/4". I use 10-24 and 1/4" for most of my stuff. I got mine at Mcmaster Carr, but Grainger carries them. Here in Ohio, I have seen them at Menards for about 15 bucks and that gives you a small amount of Rivnuts. Once you have one of those guns, you will find yourself using them all over the place. Hope this helps a few of you. Great pics on the post also. It gave me a few ideas on some more improvements on my wife's boat. Have a great time on the lake.

#267 BassinNCstyle

BassinNCstyle

    Dink

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 128 posts

Posted July 16 2011 - 07:29 AM

Is it true bass raider has no handles? Does this not make it harder to carry?

#268 dman

dman

    Think, before you cast....

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 663 posts
  • LocationScranton PA
  • My PB:Between 7-8 lbs
  • Favorite Bass:Largemouth

Posted July 16 2011 - 08:54 AM

Is it true bass raider has no handles? Does this not make it harder to carry?



not true, i have the 8E model and it has 2 handles on each side. I believe the handles on the 10 footer are on the ends and not the sides but i could be wrong on that.

#269 Red

Red

    I Live to Fish.

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,514 posts
  • LocationWaco, TX...USA
  • My PB:Between 8-9 lbs
  • Favorite Bass:Largemouth

Posted July 16 2011 - 04:02 PM

My Raider 8 only has two handles, one on each side, one front one back. It also has molded in the plastic "handles" on each end.

Anyone got any good rod storage ideas? I would love to bring all 8 of my rigs when I go, but just can't carry them. I can bring four comfortably, five is pushin it.
Waco, Tx....USA

#270 Jim McC

Jim McC

    I Love Bass Fishing!

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 382 posts
  • My PB:Please Choose
  • Favorite Bass:Please Choose

Posted July 16 2011 - 08:41 PM

My Raider 8 only has two handles, one on each side, one front one back. It also has molded in the plastic "handles" on each end.

Anyone got any good rod storage ideas? I would love to bring all 8 of my rigs when I go, but just can't carry them. I can bring four comfortably, five is pushin it.


8 rods? I don't even own 8 rods. I use a plastic milk carton with 1.25" PVC pipe for the rod holders. I have one in each corner of the crate, and secure them to the carton with plastic zip ties. You could probably fit a couple more, but with 8, the reels would probably be smacking each other.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users