Crawfish in all lakes?
Posted August 27 2006 - 11:33 AM
This is just a general question about crawfish. I fish in a small, 30 acre lake in SE MI. Am I right to assume that it has a crawfish population? Can crawfish live in pretty much any body of water from 1 acre to thousands of acres? I'm just wondering this because I dunno if using lures such as a sweet beaver or other crawfish immitations would produce if there aren't any crawfish in the lake. Thanks for any help with clearing this up.
Posted August 27 2006 - 11:42 AM
Posted August 27 2006 - 11:53 AM
I'm sure there are craws in your lake . Have you fished your lake at night ? Try fishing with black lights and using Sweet Beavers or Zoom cross craws. I like junebug colors at night. Have fun .
Posted August 27 2006 - 12:10 PM
Id take a kid with me to keep from looking silly but you will know for sure if there there.
Posted August 27 2006 - 12:15 PM
Saint Louis, MO Bassin'
Posted August 27 2006 - 12:20 PM
Even if there aren't craws in your lake, baits like that might be the key. Bass have a brain the size of a fingernail clipping. They bite out of hunger or reaction (aggressive or defensive). If it looks like food or something worth eating, they'll eat it. That's why you can get away with fishing oddball baits like a brush hog and a spinnerbait.
The only reason I'd attempt to locate or catch a crawfish is to match the colors. That does make a difference on tough days when nothing else will work. It's hard for a bass to pass up an easy meal like a slow, meandering crawfish barely moving around the bottem. I match colors based on that theory and it pays off more times than not. If the water is clear then you should definitely learn the color variations of not only crawfish, but bluegill, perch, and the shad as well for those tough days.
Other than that, keep experimenting with baits....even if they don't represent anything living on earth because bass might be able to get fooled into thinking it's one of their other favorite meals. (IE: Fat Ika, Spidergrub, skirted jigs, and baby brush hogs)
Posted August 27 2006 - 01:03 PM
I USED TO FISH THE PAINT CREEK FOR TROUT. THERE WERE ALWAYS CRAYFISH SWIMMING THERE.
I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WERE IN THE POND.
GOOD POINT AINT TEXAN.
Posted August 27 2006 - 01:13 PM
I've never tried fishing at night, and even if I did, I never would've thought about using these sweet beavers. Always thought that topwaters such as buzzbaits and such were the best at night. I'll have to give that a try when I get out at night.
Well, I am a kid, so I don't think I have to worry about that, hahaha
Id take a kid with me to keep from looking silly
Maltese Falcon -
I live right by paint creek and I see a lot of guys fly fishin, never see any fish being pulled out though.
Ain't Texan -
That's some awesome information. You made some very good points that I never thought about.
Just a question, I know the color of crawfish in a different lake that's about 10 miles away from this one. Would the crawfish colors be the same because it's in the same general area or do the colors range from lake to lake?
Thanks a lot for all the advice! It really cleared a lot of things up for me.
Posted August 27 2006 - 02:34 PM
diffrent arias/depth or water clarity.
Posted August 27 2006 - 03:30 PM
I fish Lake Norman
Posted August 27 2006 - 04:01 PM
Brown, black, very dark green, gotcha Tom Bass.
Posted August 27 2006 - 04:36 PM
With jigs and soft plastics, I generally stick to blues, blacks, reds, and watermelons on my crawfish imitaters. Blue and black has been the most successful for me in a broader spectrum of waters and conditions. It has produced in everything from gin clear to pitch black night. It's a good go-to color, at least as far as jigs are concerned. All of my craw imitaters are usually spider jigs (hula grubs from gary yamamato on a mann's stone jig head) or regular skirted jigs with a plastic trailer. I don't really focus on getting a bite on a jig on the fall...I have other weapons that preform better at that anyway. I use jigs to crawl and hop around on the bottem, looking like a traveling, feeding, scared, or injured crawfish. There are some good videos on yahoo somewhere in their video section that will show you how a crawfish moves in nature in a few different situations. Might be worth checking out. I've started catching more fish since I've been imitating the critters mroe closely...but I am also fishing in super clear water. Oh yeah....always use a rattle.
Posted August 27 2006 - 04:42 PM
Are you refering to real Crawdads or plastic imitations?
I have never seen a real crawdad in the colors that you mention here.
I fish Lake Norman
Posted August 27 2006 - 05:48 PM
I have never personally seen some of the color combonations that I said in real crawfish, but seeing as how all the bait manufactures make jigs and whatnot in these colors, I assume most are based off of something. According to a previous post by Jim, there are 300+ species of crawfish and they range in color combinations from across the spectrum.
I know here in texas, I've seen red/black, orange/black. brown/black, blue/DARK green or brown, and orange and green. Their colors are different in each of the 12 lakes I fish and their colors change throughout the year and with the water clarity. Their colors are different before, during, and after the molt. The temperature apparently affects their colors as does water clarity and diet. They range in colors within their own species and other species are completely different colors. Up to 3 or 4 species may live in one lake and there is speculation that they can produce hybrids. The color combinations are limitless.
So what I've done is by observing, studying, and reading up on them as best as I can, I've put together that little color table. That came directly out of my fishing log for the southeast US (only region I've bass fished so far) Because of my research, I've pretty much stuck with watermelon/red flecks, watermelonseed, watermelon/green pumpkin, watermelon/orange, black/blue, junebug, and red/black for all of my crawfish imitating baits. It's worked thusfar. Most of the water I fish is gin clear and highly pressured, so natural is the key. Some of the colors I have to make with bait dyes and whatnot, but I like to keep experimenting and match the hatch whenever possible. I'm consistantly catching fish so I must be doing something right.
Posted August 27 2006 - 07:18 PM
Mature largemouths have a brain about the size of a green pea. We could err comparing that to our own brain. We use no more than 10% of it's capacity. That might compare to a chicken egg sized brain running at 100% efficiency. Well, how many peas could you stuff inside an egg shell? Never tried, but maybe we are only 20 times smarter than a bass ;D But if we compare sensory capacity between human and most any animal, including fish, we might be out-done. While a fish probably can't learn German or trigonometry, it can react more excellently to sound, sub or extra sonic vibrations, pressure, sight in low light, and probably even smell well enough to evade our best efforts to out-wit probably most of them.