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Why the Pros don't use nets


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#1 boondocks

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Posted December 23 2006 - 10:47 AM

I was just watching ESPN this morning and am wondering why the  Bass Pros never use nets in their tournaments when landing fish? I have even seen them lose fish where if they had a net they would have landed the fish. Is it illegal? Or whats the deal? Anyone know? :)
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Posted December 23 2006 - 10:57 AM

it's legal in flw and not in bass.i think bass tried it for 1 year and stopped.
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Posted December 23 2006 - 12:48 PM

It is one of the rules in BASS that u can not use nets.
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Posted December 23 2006 - 01:05 PM

If you mean the guys from BASS or FLW, it's probably because they so rarely catch anything big enough to bother using a net with anyway ;-)

Now with trophy bass pro's like Jerry Rago, Mike Long, Bill Semintel, etc, "they usually DO use a net"...... especially if the fish appears to be like a 15 to 20 lb'er (in other words, if it appears to be one that's worth using a net on :-)

I remember a quote from big bass guru Danny Kodota.... "If it only apears to be a 10 to 15 lb'er, then it's not really a big deal either way...... But if it's a really big one, "USE A NET" !!!

Personally speaking though, I'll still even use a net on "little ol' 10 or 12 lb'ers" :-)

Of course all these numbers are relative to so many things. If a 5 lb'er is a BIG one for you, or your neck of the woods, a net will increase your odds of landing it.

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Posted December 23 2006 - 01:40 PM

A few years ago I was going to try for a non boater in a BASS event and one of the rules was that you couldn't use a net.  I would like to know the reason for it though?

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Posted December 23 2006 - 02:04 PM

Somewhere in the dark recesses of my mind I remember the reasoning for not using a net was because it was supposed to be less traumatic for the bass if landed by hand. After watching several of the older Bassmaster tournament programs on TV, after the net was banned, I watched fish after fish being jerked out of the water and slammed against consoles, steering wheels and tackle boxes. It made me think that the net ban was a little bit on dumb side. I use a rubber net and release the fish immediately or place it in the livewell. I don't really understand not using a net.

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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:00 PM

I think I heard someplace that BASS doesn't use nets because they think it involves more skill to actually lip or flip the fish in the boat.

I also think it causes more harm to the fish by flipping in the boat and having it flop around on the carpet, while it's smashing it's skull against the console.  I thought the whole process of trying to keep bass healthy and alive was to not take the slim coating off there scales, just seems to me with all the rubbing and flopping on the carpet that this slim wears off.

I feel sorry for BASS fish.

Any thoughts?
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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:04 PM

I think I heard someplace that BASS doesn't use nets because they think it involves more skill to actually lip or flip the fish in the boat.

I also think it causes more harm to the fish by flipping in the boat and having it flop around on the carpet, while it's smashing it's skull against the console.  I thought the whole process of trying to keep bass healthy and alive was to not take the slim coating off there scales, just seems to me with all the rubbing and flopping on the carpet that this slim wears off.

I feel sorry for BASS fish.

Any thoughts?



Agree.  Hoisting a fish into a boat so it can flop around on the carpet, slamming into things until the Pro pounces on it is ridiculous.  It's a black eye on the sport IMO and does more harm than good coming from an organization that supposedly is so concerned about not killing it's catch.
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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:09 PM

I think I heard someplace that BASS doesn't use nets because they think it involves more skill to actually lip or flip the fish in the boat.

I also think it causes more harm to the fish by flipping in the boat and having it flop around on the carpet, while it's smashing it's skull against the console. I thought the whole process of trying to keep bass healthy and alive was to not take the slim coating off there scales, just seems to me with all the rubbing and flopping on the carpet that this slim wears off.

I feel sorry for BASS fish.

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Agree. Hoisting a fish into a boat so it can flop around on the carpet, slamming into things until the Pro pounces on it is ridiculous. It's a black eye on the sport IMO and does more harm than good coming from an organization that supposedly is so concerned about not killing it's catch.


Do you think maybe this is causing the LMBV???  With a single fish possibly getting caught multiple times and losing it's protective slim coating, which makes it vulnerable for diseases.  I don't know, my mind is actually thinking for once so I'm typing it in here for all the experts to comment.
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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:10 PM

I don't know the reason for not allowing the use of nets in B.A.S.S. pro-level tournaments.  They are permitted for B.A.S.S. local club, regional, and state tournaments, however.  I am intrigued by the question and as soon as the holidays are over, I'm going to inquire of B.A.S.S. as to the reason for this rule.

In the meantime,though, I would like to point out that B.A.S.S. pioneered the practice of Catch and Release as well as the use of livewells in boats.  Before the B.A.S.S. bashing starts, please realize that B.A.S.S. has done more to promote fisheries conservation and the safe handling of bass and their return to their home waters than, perhaps, any other fishing organization in history.  Prior to the existence of B.A.S.S., the prevailing practice was to Catch and KEEP.

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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:14 PM

This isn't a bashing about BASS.  It's simply a discussion.  Don't dig deeper.  This topic pretty much involves all circuits that don't use nets and allow there fish to get smacked around in the boats.

I realize all that B.A.S.S. has done, but remember, they did start out by killing all these fish until non-tournament people starting to b*tch and complain about tournaments coming to their waters to murder fish.  So it wasn't a pretty start.  Also, if B.A.S.S. is all about taking care of fish, why do they allow THEIR fishermen to mistreat them so badly?  Answer that please.

Also, again, this isn't bashing B.A.S.S.
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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:16 PM

I don't know the reason for not allowing the use of nets in B.A.S.S. pro-level tournaments. They are permitted for B.A.S.S. local club, regional, and state tournaments, however. I am intrigued by the question and as soon as the holidays are over, I'm going to inquire of B.A.S.S. as to the reason for this rule.

In the meantime,though, I would like to point out that B.A.S.S. pioneered the practice of Catch and Release as well as the use of livewells in boats. Before the B.A.S.S. bashing starts, please realize that B.A.S.S. has done more to promote fisheries conservation and the safe handling of bass and their return to their home waters than, perhaps, any other fishing organization in history. Prior to the existence of B.A.S.S., the prevailing practice was to Catch and KEEP.

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Also you can promote fisheries conservation and the safe handling of bass and their return to their home waters, but lets actually put that promotion into affect, because I don't see it happening with what they are promoting. These fish are getting abused. I'm not a PETA member either, I'm just calling it, how I see it.

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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:23 PM

Cabela,

What, exactly, is it that B.A.S.S. is allowing THEIR fishermen to do that doesn't occur on every other tournament circuit in the U.S. ?

I certainly won't claim that bass don't become injured during handling, by ANY angler, I don't think it's limited to just B.A.S.S. events though.  But B.A.S.S. continually studies the issue and has been on the forefront of innovating ways to cause less injury to the bass... from the use of aerated holding tanks, release boats, and other means.

On another note, I don't know that any particular handling practice either promotes or inhibits the transfer of LMBV, but some recent studies have shown that LMBV can be transferred from one infected fish to other healthy fish that are held together in the same livewell.  This transfer can happen within a matter of minutes.  Hopefully, future studies will shed more light on this hazard and possible ways to prevent the transmission of the disease.

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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:28 PM

Yeah, I don't know.  Just seems like when a bass is netted, it isn't allowed to flop around in the boat.  Usually they sit motionless until you grab them out.  Ya know?

I agree that fishermen beyond just B.A.S.S. anglers mistreat/abuse the fish.  I personally net all fish and try to get them back in the lake or cull the fish asap.  Sometimes people just hold and play with the fish way to much.  To many camara fish.
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Posted December 23 2006 - 03:35 PM

I couldn't agree more about people holding and playing with the fish way too much.  As to camera fish, I guess when you're televising an event, you're expected to give the viewers something to watch.

I, as do all the anglers in my local club, also net all of our fish and try to get them in the livewell or cull them and return them as quickly as possible to the water, with a minimum of handling or further stress to the fish.   I, personally, would think that the use of the rubber-mesh type nets and then lipping the fish from the net would be the least injurious of all methods.  
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