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Humminbird Down Imaging Mounted Sideways? Sidescan??


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#16 ctf58

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Posted January 11 2012 - 09:32 PM

@ redboat

That statement came from a Humminbird forum and I beleive it was an employee at Humminbird.
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Posted January 11 2012 - 09:40 PM

I have a Humminbird 570DI
Sonar

Down Imaging® w/ DualBeam PLUS™
  • w/SwitchFire™
  • 200 kHz / 25° @ -10db
  • 455 kHz / 16° @ -10db
  • 455 kHz / 75° @ -10db
  • 800 kHz / 45° @ -10db
  • Depth: 250ft (DI)/500 ft



Still wondering if my original question could work? On Humminbird forum some say yes.
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Posted January 11 2012 - 09:45 PM

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Posted January 12 2012 - 08:06 AM

The answer is simple, try it to see if you can get the results you want.

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Posted January 12 2012 - 09:31 AM

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I will give it a try. I just did not want to reinvent the wheel if someone else had tried it and said it was a waste of time. I just popped in my head one night and seemed to simple. :sign13:
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Posted January 12 2012 - 09:34 AM

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Posted January 12 2012 - 10:44 AM

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I will give it a try. I just did not want to reinvent the wheel if someone else had tried it and said it was a waste of time. I just popped in my head one night and seemed to simple. :sign13:


It's never a waste to time to experiement and you may help others with their equipment.
I have a SI transducer that one if the SI beams stopped working (I think I damaged the cable with the trollling motor mount). I can still use the 1/2 of it for SI and DI.

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Posted January 12 2012 - 05:28 PM

It's never a waste to time to experiement and you may help others with their equipment.
I have a SI transducer that one if the SI beams stopped working (I think I damaged the cable with the trollling motor mount). I can still use the 1/2 of it for SI and DI.

I don't think there is nething special in the wiring, like its not fiber optics or nething, so you can probably fix that in a matter of minutes if you can find where the connection broke. Actually never seen one myself but wiring is wiring generally speaking.

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Posted January 12 2012 - 05:37 PM

I don't think there is nething special in the wiring, like its not fiber optics or nething, so you can probably fix that in a matter of minutes if you can find where the connection broke. Actually never seen one myself but wiring is wiring generally speaking.


Thanks, I have spliced transducer cables before. With the new stuff, getting the shielding back in place so RF interference is not an extra issue would be a chore. With this particular transducer, it was made before extra shielding was part of the mfg and is a RF magnet anyway. It has been replaced for over a year.

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Posted January 12 2012 - 05:45 PM

Thanks, I have spliced transducer cables before. With the new stuff, getting the shielding back in place so RF interference is not an extra issue would be a chore. With this particular transducer, it was made before extra shielding was part of the mfg and is a RF magnet anyway. It has been replaced for over a year.

I was actually not trying to be a smarta@@. Hmm that is interesting, like I said i've never actually seen inside transducer cable. What type of shielding do they use, in guitars we sometimes use shielding tape to cut down on RF interference too, is it something similar, like just copper shielding?

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Posted January 12 2012 - 06:02 PM

Yes, each conductor has a shield and this particular one may have the shield under the outer insulation also. I haven't cut insulation to see. Just mashing the cable increases RF interference sometimes.
I didn't consider your comment as being a smartaxx. Actually an accurate statement and may be of some benefit to someone with a similar issue.

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Posted January 12 2012 - 06:06 PM

Probably does then, that stuff is fragile and a pita to deal with.

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Posted January 13 2012 - 10:08 AM

This is from another forum where a guy Has been trying the same thing with his Humminbird 596c

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Re: 596c HD DI to a half of SI

« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2012, 10:50:25 AM »


Yes, I have been continued with this experiment. It is very useful to look for submerged large objects (from 3-4 meter length) placed on big area, such as single tree, stones.
Maximum range is limited by 240 ft to ONE side(see Max. Depth adjustment). If you want more details or ability to see smaller objects like fish you should decrease Max. Depth. This model does not have Zoom function, nevertheless you can get "Zoom" using Upper Range and Lower Range of X-press menu.
I rarely take camera on boat. My boat slips badly on the ice river Posted Image so, Waiting for a new season. Then new photos and videos will appear.
P.S. I often fish at twilight and adjust Light (Brightness) 5-7. When I off the unit and on again, Light level is 10 (default). It is not comfortable:(.







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Re: 596c HD DI to a half of SI

« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2012, 06:02:36 PM »



Great to hear. I was thinking about mounting it at an angle on my trolling motor so that I could swivel and "Look" around. I am a fisherman and think being able to see the structure from a distance and not driving directly over it and disturbing the fish would be better.
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If you scan a submerged tree say 50 feet away does it look like a tree? What I'm asking is the image good in your opinion?



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« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 09:05:32 AM »
Large tree looks like tree lying on the bottom up to 150ft from boat at 30ft depth. The image is quite good.



Another guy that does search and rescue says that they turn Down Imaging to the side to look under docks and underwater cutouts in banks for bodies and the images are pretty good.
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Posted January 13 2012 - 07:41 PM

Clint, I understand your thinking.

Yesterday I asked an individual at a local tackle shop that sells the Lowrance and Hummingbird units your query and he said that turning the transducer to the side would not work.

True or false, that is what he told me.

Have you ever heard of Wilson Frazier, the Professor of Sonar GPS?

Wilson has a series of three DVDs about sonar and GPS units. I suggest you consider investing in Sonar GPS 101 and then add the 202 and 303 videos. You will learn a lot about how sonar works and what you can do with your units.

The DVDs are produced by 2advise Productions at www.2adviseproductions.com.

You may also try to find Wilson Frazier on the Internet at Frazier Marine Group.

Frazier will be at the Richmond Fishing Expo and if I can catch up with him I will ask him your question.

I will let you know what he says if I can ask the question.
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Posted January 13 2012 - 07:45 PM

Clint, it looks like the 2adviseproductions is not on the web any longer.

Try this site: http://www.itainttv.com/

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