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What is all the rage about Wiggle Warts before Rapala? I don't understand why everybody wants them. Please, somebody let me know?

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After Rapala bought the Wiggle Wart from Storm, they "fixed" the mold of the Wiggle Wart so it would run true. There was a flaw in the mold of the old wiggle warts that caused them to be  more erratic and have a darting action after they hit rocks and other cover that many anglers feel the new Wiggle Warts don't offer. The erratic behavior of the old wiggle wart is what Bass fisherman are after. Rapala seems to cater toward the "northern" crowd and trollers and didn't forsee the impact of the change to the wiggle wart and Bass fisherman.

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It's funny, in a way, that when/after they (Rapala) "fixed" their newly acquired wiggle wart, they then introduce an entirely product, the Skatter Rap, which is designed to do basically what the old wiggle wart used to do.

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because of the erratic way they moved after striking cover they were also hard to hang up,oh it could be done,but it was tougher.The best way to tell is the seams the new Warts look seamless while the older Warts the seam is easy to see,even feel.

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I'm no Wart expert but know a few maniacs who are, and I fish a few Warts from different eras.  The original Storm Warts had a rep of being able to "hunt" because of variability in the molding process used at the factory.  In fact, some would hunt, some would not, and some were so "off" that they were un-tunable and useless.  If you got a hunter, you were lucky.  If not, the Wart experience was downhill from there.  Even before selling to Rapala, Storm changed the plastic molds on the Wart and a lot of the variability went away.  Variability in lure manufacture is not considered a good thing by most, and certainly not by Rapala who now owns Storm.  The latest Warts are billed as "Original Warts" - but of course, that is not really true.  "Originals" went away when their plastic molds wore out.  That isn't to say that the new "Original Warts" aren't excellent crankbaits.  There's a lot of hyperbole, hoopla, and voodoo mentality connected to some crankbaits and Original Warts are a prime example of it.  If you want some, go to Ebay.  There is an active collector's market for original Warts, still in their original bubble cards.  Bring money.  But if the one you get won't swim worth spit - no whining!

 

I'm with Ratherbefishing on the irony of Rapala "fixing" Warts while putting out the Scatter Raps.  But it's really not the same thing if you look at the history. 

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I have been experimenting with weighting in the newer warts. My first try seemed successful but the water is hard now and it needs more experimenting. Very promising though.

 

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/129462-ultimate-searching-crankbait/

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I'm no Wart expert but know a few maniacs who are, and I fish a few Warts from different eras.  The original Storm Warts had a rep of being able to "hunt" because of variability in the molding process used at the factory.  In fact, some would hunt, some would not, and some were so "off" that they were un-tunable and useless.  If you got a hunter, you were lucky.  If not, the Wart experience was downhill from there.  Even before selling to Rapala, Storm changed the plastic molds on the Wart and a lot of the variability went away.  Variability in lure manufacture is not considered a good thing by most, and certainly not by Rapala who now owns Storm.  The latest Warts are billed as "Original Warts" - but of course, that is not really true.  "Originals" went away when their plastic molds wore out.  That isn't to say that the new "Original Warts" aren't excellent crankbaits.  There's a lot of hyperbole, hoopla, and voodoo mentality connected to some crankbaits and Original Warts are a prime example of it.  If you want some, go to Ebay.  There is an active collector's market for original Warts, still in their original bubble cards.  Bring money.  But if the one you get won't swim worth spit - no whining!

 

I'm with Ratherbefishing on the irony of Rapala "fixing" Warts while putting out the Scatter Raps.  But it's really not the same thing if you look at the history. 

very informative. I really do believe that they developed as a cold water /winter bait because of their applications. Tons of salmon fishmen use then in the spring time when the water is still cool and bass fishermen picked it up from there. If bass want a wide erratic wobble in the winter and when the cold is around then those baits thrive ex shad raps. 

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Different plastics, different molds. different bill design, different buoyancy, different rattles and different sound.  The only reliable way to tell that it is a pre-rapala wart if it is unpainted is that it will have "Wiggle Wart" stamped on the underside centerline of the bill.  If it is a Post-Rapala it will say Storm.

If it is a bait that has been painted, you have to be able to tell the difference by sound alone.  Older warts are deeper in rattle tone- they used lead rattles.  The newer baits are sharper in tone, they use steel.  The plastic joints are a bit rough on old baits, but that is hard to tell if the bait has been painted.

When it comes to old warts, the reason they're so much more effective is that they were so erratic.  They would move 4-6 inches left or right of center on retrieve.  They were also a much denser bait, with less buoyancy.  In cold water, they would rise slower, making them more likely to get bit.

Do new warts get bit? Sure, they catch fish.  But I have a LOT more faith in Pre-Rapala Warts for early spring fishing and anywhere in the Ozarks any time of the year.

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Wiggle Wart collector here.   Everyone in this feed is correct.  Storm Lures sold out to Rapala several years ago and when they did, Rapala took the WW molds and tried to "improve" them.  If you had a vintage wart in one and and a new wart in the other the difference would be glaring.   Older vintage warts were constructed and painted with a much higher quality.  Newer baits have more of a 'matte' finish where older warts have more of a glossy laquered finish. 

 

Guys that swear by them (as mentioned above) seek them for there erratic action, quality construction and above all else, they are LOUD. 

 

Storm produced tons of different colors -- many of them catering to different regions.  They even released "Special" colors on a very limited basis that are extrememly sought after and are very rare.  Today the most popular "Pre-Rapala" colors are any of the 'craw' patterns which came in several variations.  Great for early spring (Feb and March) cold weater pre spawn patterns. 

 

Storm also produced other size variations of the original Wiggle Wart - The larger, Mag Wart and the smaller Wee Warts and Pee Wee Warts.  Although they are great baits they are not nearly as prized as the orginal. 

 

Cheers.

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Have a tray full of Pre Warts..Like them a LOT...have one pattern called Missouri Craw which i got two in a trade..they sell for  some ridicules prices on Ebay

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Have a tray full of Pre Warts..Like them a LOT...have one pattern called Missouri Craw which i got two in a trade..they sell for  some ridicules prices on Ebay

Very cool...and you're right, the SP-90 brings the big bucks.  I have a couple of them as well.  I actually don't care for the color as far as looks go but there are guys that fish Tablerock in SW Missouri that SWEAR by them.  You'd be surprised how guys pay huge dollars ($100+ for the Missouri Craw) and actually fish with them.   I don't know about you but as much as I love to fish, I would be pretty hesitant to throw a $100 lure.  =)

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I've had the misfortune of fishing behind guys on Table Rock who were good wart fishermen when the fish were on a wart bite, it's not fun. Basically felt like I should just sit down with the net and wait to net their next fish for them. I've got both pre and post Rapala warts, both of them catch fish, but there's something about the old ones that just catch them so much better. 

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unfortunately the only pre rapala wart I've got is in bone, but I still fish it :-) what I wouldn't give for some green and red craws.

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im torn between selling them or holding on to them because they wont get any cheaper.as the vintage warts are lost....i agree i would have a very hard time fishing something selling on ebay for a hundred bucks..In fact the 2 i have look unfished and they are going to stay that way as long as they are mine.....

 

I need a good BC rod badly,so im going to maybe do some horse tradin'....have not made up my mind..id give someone a hella' good deal on the pair for a nice BC rod....

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im torn between selling them or holding on to them because they wont get any cheaper.as the vintage warts are lost....i agree i would have a very hard time fishing something selling on ebay for a hundred bucks..In fact the 2 i have look unfished and they are going to stay that way as long as they are mine.....

 

I need a good BC rod badly,so im going to maybe do some horse tradin'....have not made up my mind..id give someone a hella' good deal on the pair for a nice BC rod....

Can you post pics? Just curious :-)

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tryin' i guess i have to get an account with photobucket or something...

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tryin' i guess i have to get an account with photobucket or something...

If you click the "more reply options" button to the right of the "post" button it will take you to a page where you can attach files with your post, as long as the file's not too big.

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take a look

 

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These are some of my grandpa's pre Rapala wiggle warts. He also has wee warts, flat warts, and mag warts. Sorry for the bad pic. Had to crop it to get the file size down.

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I grew up on the wart. I wish now I had back the jillion of em I hung in the trees. I still find the original occasionally and have several that I still use. Including my go to "missouri craw" There will never be another like them If you can find the flat wart its pretty close. Bluebasser is correct when its on you might as well be useing a crank phone callin 'em up. They are that good!!

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I guess i just go lucky.some of those colors i have 4 or 5 of. the Missouri Craw i have 2.He also had a bunch of new ' Strom ' Wiggle warts..i have 1 magnum Wiggle warts in black have not seen that color anywhere.

 

but your right the action is different than anything else i fish,i dont think bass want to eat them i think they want to kill them.It triggers that kind of response.

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How do you tell if the ones you have are the PRE-rapala warts?

 

I stopped at the local pawn shop today to because I thought I had seen wiggle warts there. Lucky me there was! And I scooped it up! Here is a pic of a New wiggle wart (LEFT) and PreRapala (RIGHT)

Noticeable external differences:

  1. New wart has STORM written  on underside of bill. Old wart, though faded,  says WIGGLE WART.
  2. New wart has very clean seam. Old wart has very rough visible seam.
  3. Not sure on this one. My PreRapala Wart has dimples. Not sure if that is normal but the new wart lacks them.

Also, the pawn shop had a few PreRapala MagWarts, would those be worth picking up as well?

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i only have three and thats cus i got a steal of a deal on ebay 3 for 42 bucks and honestly would of paid more cus they are worth it. my big thing with the new ones are way out of tune out of the box. and 2 the colors they use are nothing like the pre raps. i got a green craw to try it out and its more like a yellowish brown craw. basically if your going to call it green red or brown craw make it look like the old ones. not saying they dont have any good colors they do. but if they would just get there heads out of places. and make a better wart they could sell them for 10 to 15 bucks and if they worked like the old ones and look more like the old ones I would and many others would mind paying 10 or more bucks. simple math to me. fix what you have and sell if for 2 times as much makes as much since as chevy bringing back the camaro and putting a 4 banger

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