Hey! It's a noisy Laser Lure!

 

I'll pass.

Ok people, I can shed some light on how they are activated. Each of the little bends where the hook is attached to has a wire touching it. If you touch BOTH of the bends at the same time, it will activate the EBS because your fingers are able to conduct electricity, as does water. They will NOT activate in your box if other cranks are touching. 

I wonder how we would really know if he culled 4 fish on the Livingston. His 7 pounder came from the DT6. His bag was 29 pounds and change. So his 4 he culled had to be around 5.5lbs average. It's too bad they didn't show enough footage considering they have gopros. I mean on espn they won't have enough time but on bassmaster.com or gopro site they should just show the whole dang video from start to end.

i bought some livingstons last year & caught some good fish on them.  it's one of those things where if you never try them, you'll never know.  p.s. don't expect your club rivals to tell you they work, either.

got sucked in. bought the DT-20 version for deep summer bass and the lipless one to try out in the spring. interested to see if there is any difference between this and a KVD red eye shad. doubt it.

I do well with my KVD SILENT stalker 5XD. Just saying......

got sucked in. bought the DT-20 version for deep summer bass and the lipless one to try out in the spring. interested to see if there is any difference between this and a KVD red eye shad. doubt it.

One of the main differences is actually how it will sit on the bottom if you are yo yoing it. The Livingston will sit standing upright on it's nose while nearly all other lipless cranks lay on their side flat on the bottom. Several ice fishing guys have caught good fish on them so far this winter while it is just sitting down there chirping away

I wonder how we would really know if he culled 4 fish on the Livingston. His 7 pounder came from the DT6. His bag was 29 pounds and change. So his 4 he culled had to be around 5.5lbs average. It's too bad they didn't show enough footage considering they have gopros. I mean on espn they won't have enough time but on bassmaster.com or gopro site they should just show the whole dang video from start to end.

Someone posted a video somewhere on here that had a lot of footage of him using the Livingston. You could clearly see that was the bait he was retieing. It was a different color red then the demon color. You could also tell the difference in the actual bait shape as well.

Yes I've been watching the gopro clips and the classic on espn. There was a point Randy was advertising the lure and the company when he was using the Livingston. My point was he "culled" 4 fish. They all looked the same size on camera. He threw a few fish back in the lake from the Livingston because he knew they wouldn't make the cut. Whether he culled 1 or 4 from the Livigston, a smart business man must endorse the sponsors that are paying him. Like I said he had to be pulling in 5.5 lbers on the Livingston. Those are big fishes.

I was just reading about how electronic noise makers in lures have difficulty creating a noise that is loud enough to hear over the ambient water noise. I tried shaking a Livingston in a store, I couldn't hear anything. Do they need to be turned on before they make noise? 

 

They are turned on when they contact water and are turned off when pulled out. There are two contact points on the bait, and when it's in the water, the water completes the circuit.

The thing I wonder is he could have thrown almost any color/brand crankbait that day it was just a perfect spot/timing.

i've have the pro wake and dd20.  havn't used the dd20 yet but the pro wake is a very high quality lure.  the croaking is very faint and i'm not sure the red glowing does anything but they are great lures and i will continue to use them once the batteries die.  Should last 2 years according to a rep with Livingston.  Both of mine were back when they were actually quality.  i can spend $12 but the one that just won the classic is gonna be $16.... thats a far stretch from decently priced.... i can buy 4 bandits for that.

 

also the light and croaking can be turned on by shaking the lure as if it were going through the water.

Preorders now available for $16 !!! no thanks, but for anyone else interested here's the link....

https://www.livingstonlures.com/catalog/freshwater-lures/howeller-dream-master-classic/guntersville-craw

i bet they sell out ASAP

 

not one DT6 in Ikes Demon was in stock at BPS last week.

Funny people will not spend $16 to try a new lure, but spend $15 for Lucky Crafts. what's the difference? I understand the cost, but really $16 is not that much money. Besides the croaking, they seem to be well made excellent action baits. From what I understand, they dive fast to get to their zone quicker, have a wide wobble like a square bill, and seems to be excellent quality, with quality hooks. So why are they not worth $16 when people will spend more on baits that do the same thing with out the croaking?

 

Just wondering, not trying to start anything.

Sure more expensive baits equal better quality: paint job, durability, hooks, performance, etc. As far as the livingston technology goes, maybe it works maybe it doesnt. In the end go with your gut.

Funny people will not spend $16 to try a new lure, but spend $15 for Lucky Crafts. what's the difference? I understand the cost, but really $16 is not that much money. Besides the croaking, they seem to be well made excellent action baits. From what I understand, they dive fast to get to their zone quicker, have a wide wobble like a square bill, and seems to be excellent quality, with quality hooks. So why are they not worth $16 when people will spend more on baits that do the same thing with out the croaking?

 

Just wondering, not trying to start anything.

 

They're actually quite generic in their action.  The DM14 and DM20 are straight up Norman DD baits.  To put that in perspectve, DTs are sub $8.00 baits and have, IMO, a better action that Norman baits.  Why should I pay DT money, or more, for a Norman bait? 

 

There are people out there that like the LC baits for their action and durability.  I don't like LC baits, but I also bought 2 Livingston baits and had decided I was going to buy them before the Classic.  I am disappointed thus far.

 

The Livingston dream-catcher 9000 looks like a generic JDM type bait.  Unless I can see the action, then I'm not touching that thing.     

My Gander Mountain was fully stocked with DT-6's in Demon and they were on sale.

 

They were lucky I didn't buy the whole lot and sell them on e-bay ... LOL

Actually Randy Howell won the classic throwing a Rapala DT in Demon color, he even released the go-pro video of it...lmao

I am saying $16 for a lure is expensive no matter what the brand is.  The hooks on livingston products are really nice and so is the rest of the build.  The action on the pro wake was really nice but its a pretty big square bill lure so its going to create lots of action.  I don't see the comparison to Norman lures as fair.... there is nothing generic about livingston lures.  if there is then there is something generic about almost all lure design and paint schemes. 

 

 

and yes you have to love when sponsors take charge..... like i'm sure he was using the daiwa tatula 100 reel for most of that tourney instead of the steez..... bunch of crap.

I should have bought more $4.88 DT-6s in demon when I had the chance.  I could have sold them on ebay like a scalper for upwards of $12.00 a piece. 

 

I don't get the hype behind the DT-6 demon.  I love than bait and color but there is no reason why it should be that popular all of the sudden.  Mardi Gras DT-6 gets no love.

Actually Randy Howell won the classic throwing a Rapala DT in Demon color, he even released the go-pro video of it...lmao

There is a video of him using the Livingston as well.

Randy said the dt6 was all he threw at the classic (Ike's colors)

I am saying $16 for a lure is expensive no matter what the brand is.  The hooks on livingston products are really nice and so is the rest of the build.  The action on the pro wake was really nice but its a pretty big square bill lure so its going to create lots of action.  I don't see the comparison to Norman lures as fair.... there is nothing generic about livingston lures.  if there is then there is something generic about almost all lure design and paint schemes. 

 

 

and yes you have to love when sponsors take charge..... like i'm sure he was using the daiwa tatula 100 reel for most of that tourney instead of the steez..... bunch of crap.

 

Most lure design and paint is very generic.  SK, Bandit and Norman are some of the worst offenders in making generic blobs of plastic cranks.  Their get out of jail free card is that they are old or "classic" designed baits.  This is what the Livingston DM baits are.  Classic plastics based heavily on Norman designs with guts full of Livingston's tech.

 

The BPS Egg looks to be more impressively designed bait than the Pro Wake.  If were judging books by their covers, then the Livingston baits are very plain when put beside any JDM type bait or even BPS XPS. 

Randy said the dt6 was all he threw at the classic (Ike's colors)

ALL he threw? I don't think he ever said that it was the ONLY thing he used. But here's the video of him using the Livingston anyway:

 

http://www.bassmaster.com/video/randy-howells-day-3-afternoon-charge