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I bought my 2 sons a Daiwa Revros 3000H and Pflueger President 30 spinning reels and I want to find the right size rods for these reels. I've search everywhere on the internet and the info I've found is a little confusing. 

 

They only freshwater fish mostly for bass. When I searched for the Pflueger, the results were anywhere from a 6 ft to a 7.5 ft rod. When I searched for the Daiwa, the results were an 8.5 ft to a 9 ft rod.

 

Why such a discrepancy when the 2 reels are basically the same size? I'm only looking at Ugly Stiks Elites, but I don't know if I should get a 6 ft, 6.5 ft or 7 ft rod. I think a 7.5 ft and certainly a 8.5 or 9 ft rod is way too big especially if they'll mainly be fishing from a row boat.

 

Am I wrong? Also, any thoughts on Med vs Med/Heavy and 1 or 2 piece?

 

 

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The Pflueger president 30 is a great reel that will last a long time. As for the rod, I would say 6 1/2 - 7 1/2 ft rod would be ideal. 

 

I prefer shorter rods myself 6'6"-6'10" is my sweet spot. I also fish from the bank, so overhanging trees and mobility are concerns for me. I am thinking your sons may be in the same situation from a row boat, limited space

 

I have both one piece and two piece rods. Prefer one piece, two piece used for when space is necessary, ie family trips. 

 

Medium rod power should be good but if there is alot of cover then maybe a medium heavy, but without knowing the water it's hard to say for sure. 

 

 

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Not sure how old your sons are, but I would suggest anything from a 6 1/2' to 7' rod for them in either a medium power or medium heavy power rod. A medium power rod will be better for throwing the smaller, lighter baits so if that's what you're planning on having them throw I'd opt for a medium. If you're planning on throwing something bigger and heavier I'd go with the medium heavy. That would also be the rod of choice for average sized spinnerbaits, swim jigs, lippless and diving crankbaits, as well as the bigger topwaters and texas rigs/jigs.

 

If your kids are still very young, I'd probably drop down to a bit shorter rod so it's easier for them to control, and I'd go with a medium power, if they're older I'd stick with my original suggestion and probably go with a medium heavy.

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What is your ball park budget?

Tom

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My sons are older; 20 and 22. They'll be throwing a variety of baits. Mostly crankbaits, top water and divers. They'll use whatever is working for that body of water, water depth and weeds so I'm thinking a med/heavy is better?

 

As for budget, I'm thinking of the Ugly Stik Elite which are about $50. I'm just trying to decide between 6 1/2' OR 7'.

 

Also, all the combos for the Daiwa Revros 3000H are set up with an 8 1/2' or 9' rod. Why so big? Am I OK with a 6 1/2' or 7' ugly stik for the Daiwa?

 

Lastly, are there any advantages of a 1 piece over a 2 piece other than space? 

 

Thanks everyone for your help.

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One piece rods are said to be more sensitive and stronger as the blank is a solid piece. I find my two piece equally sensitive, but I like not having the tip come off or twist while casting.

 

I also usually keep the combos rigged up with a lure tied on, which can create a nightmare with a two piece when broken down. The braid line gets tangled and its more frustrating that simply sliding off a rod sock. Just my opinion though.

 

Two piece rods are a great thing when traveling or have young kids. Your kids are older so that's not a consideration. My 7 year old has now learned not to mess around when the one piece rods are in the trunk and though the back seats of my sedan. 

 

As for length, I would recommend that your sons each try the different lengths and see what they are comfortable with. 6 inches is really not a huge difference, just preference. 

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Cabela's has the Fenwick Silverhawk II spinning rods on sale for $49.99.  I have the 7' Medium/Fast paired with a Penn Battle II 2500 and it can pretty much throw anything but really heavy plastics and jigs.

http://www.cabelas.com/product/bargain-cave/fishing/rods/pc/105591780/c/105740280/sc/105742080/fenwick-silverhawk-ii-spinning-rods/2434191.uts?slotId=0

 

You can also get a $100 Cabela's giftcard from Ebay for $82.  (google ebay cabelas $82).  So basically you can get 2 $100 rods for $82.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Cabelas-Gift-Card-For-Only-82-FREE-Mail-Delivery/292359178832?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D6419ffcea723436eb7cb11990d5f2e0a%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D292357263628&_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850

 

 

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On 12/4/2017 at 12:27 PM, massbass2017 said:

Why such a discrepancy when the 2 reels are basically the same size? I'm only looking at Ugly Stiks Elites, but I don't know if I should get a 6 ft, 6.5 ft or 7 ft rod. I think a 7.5 ft and certainly a 8.5 or 9 ft rod is way too big especially if they'll mainly be fishing from a row boat.

 

Am I wrong? Also, any thoughts on Med vs Med/Heavy and 1 or 2 piece?

 

 

From my experience, Daiwa reels seem to run a size larger vs similarly labeled reels from other companies. Don’t have either of those reels but when I was looking for an Inshore fishing reel I noticed a 4K Stradic had similar specs to a 3K Daiwa BG.

 

The Revros May be paired with longer rods in order to balance the reel’s weight. A quick search showed that a Revros 3K is about 3 oz heavier than the Pflueger 30.

 

As far as length, I fish from a kayak and have found the sweet spot to be in the 6’6” - 7’0”. Longer rods make landing a fish a little cumbersome, and anything shorter make’s it tough for me to clear the bow if a fish runs to the other side of my kayak. From a rowboat, I don’t think they’ll have as much of an issue so anything in the 7’0” give or take 6” should work. Anything longer may make it awkward to land a fish.

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