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42 minutes ago, Frogliza said:

Thanks for informing me on this! I will keep the citica in mind. But would a reel designed for heavy saltwater use like a Daiwa Lexa or a Okuma Komodo be better than something that isn't? Because I have been looking at the Daiwa Lexa Type-WN and the Okuma Komodo SS (both around $200) for a 300 size reel. The Komodo also has a baitclicker.

 

Again what makes you think they're better?

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1 minute ago, Catt said:

 

Again what makes you think they're better?

It is just because they are 300 size reels and the amount of people who have recommended those 2 reels

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@Frogliza

I think you are confused a little bit here. Any reels made can be use either fresh or salt water, the only exception is the one with magnesium material that not salt corroded resistant and not recommended to use in saltwater.

Now the different between using reel in fresh water and saltwater is maintenances. If any reels get in touch with saltwater, those reels should be clean, rinse or service right away to prevent any damage from salt (no material can withstand salt even reel that specific for heavy saltwater used)

which reel to choose is up to many factors, targeted fish, line capacity, speed, drag system and such. You don't want to use bass reel if you target big saltwater fish, the line capacity is not enough, you can't control fish and you might get spooled very easily.

Mostly the size of reel like 70, 200 300 400 is for Line capacity, bigger number is more Line capacity and bigger size reel and more weight. Now in bass world most of the techniques you won't need a lot of  line capacity and some prefer smaller reel so the size 70, 200 would served them just fine, but for those that fish with big swimbait would need bigger line, or more line capacity so they would need bigger reel like 300-400 size reel. Now which reel would fit your need to be able to handle bass and inshore fishing is up to you.

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1 minute ago, JustJames said:

@Frogliza

I think you are confused a little bit here. Any reels made can be use either fresh or salt water, the only exception is the one with magnesium material that not salt corroded resistant and not recommended to use in saltwater.

Now the different between using reel in fresh water and saltwater is maintenances. If any reels get in touch with saltwater, those reels should be clean, rinse or service right away to prevent any damage from salt (no material can withstand salt even reel that specific for heavy saltwater used)

which reel to choose is up to many factors, targeted fish, line capacity, speed, drag system and such. You don't want to use bass reel if you target big saltwater fish, the line capacity is not enough, you can't control fish and you might get spooled very easily.

Mostly the size of reel like 70, 200 300 400 is for Line capacity, bigger number is more Line capacity and bigger size reel.

Thanks for the comment! And yes I know the sizes of reels and I am looking for a 300 size for all round use saltwater/freshwater. I know that any reel can be used for fresh/saltwater but some reels will hold better than others due to a better design etc.

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31 minutes ago, Frogliza said:

some reels will hold better than others due to a better design etc.

 

Still missing it!

 

There is no difference in design or corrosion resistance or anything else than makes them  different.

 

Yes I'll agree on the 300 size because Citica doesn't come that size.

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4 minutes ago, Catt said:

 

Still missing it!

 

There is no difference in design or corrosion resistance or anything else than makes them  different.

 

Yes I'll agree on the 300 size because Citica doesn't come that size.

fine you got me

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4 hours ago, Frogliza said:

Im on the gulf coast but is the Citica saltwater approved? It doesn't say on Shimano's site

If the "bright orange zero ball bearing reel" is worth the hype it SHOULD be a great saltwater reel as well. I hope you know what I mean by that since the company is banned from being mentioned on this site.

I had no idea what you were talking about until I did a search - that's funny! I don't know anything about their products but good for them for doing something different I say. I certainly hope the censorship isn't real though. 

 

I agree, odd that the Citica isn't specified as saltwater rated on the mfr site. I found it categorized as such at a retailer site. Doesn't necessarily mean it's right.

 

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7 minutes ago, haggard said:

I had no idea what you were talking about until I did a search - that's funny! I don't know anything about their products but good for them for doing something different I say. I certainly hope the censorship isn't real though. 

 

I agree, odd that the Citica isn't specified as saltwater rated on the mfr site. I found it categorized as such at a retailer site. Doesn't necessarily mean it's right.

 

The censorship is real sadly. *** is not one of bassresource's sponsors so it is censored. And yeah it doesn't necessarily mean that. 

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3 hours ago, Catt said:

 

You are aware that the exact same anodization process is used on saltwater reels is used on freshwater reels?

 

Flush with water after use in saltwater, tear down, clean it, & re-lube every 3 months... what ya should already be doing with any reel...it's called maintenance.

Maybe has more to do with the bearings (sealed?) than the finish on the body.

 

Maybe it's just marketing hype and the salt/fresh reels are truly identical. But I think they'd be figured out and called out on it pretty fast if that was the case.

 

Maybe the advantage of a saltwater rated reel is that it is more forgiving to less frequent maintenance than freshwater reels. Let's face it - we might all know that maintenance should be done but not everybody does it (for whatever reason).

 

 

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Again the Coastal offers all that you are looking for (IMO). Great fresh and saltwater reel for inshore application. It holds a lot of line, has decent weight and looks great! Mine works almost as new after 2 years!

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3 minutes ago, freelancer27 said:

Again the Coastal offers all that you are looking for (IMO). Great fresh and saltwater reel for inshore application. It holds a lot of line, has decent weight and looks great! Mine works almost as new after 2 years!

Have you looked at the Daiwa Lexa wn. It is the same price on amazon as the coastal is. I have looked at and like both

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23 hours ago, Frogliza said:

Do you have any low profile casters for inshore?

yes,2 Orras. but like the round reels better.

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1 hour ago, Frogliza said:

Have you looked at the Daiwa Lexa wn. It is the same price on amazon as the coastal is. I have looked at and like both

I think the Lexa is best when you are 100% inshore fishing and you are probably casting lures that can be trolled. The reel is almost 2 oz heavier than the Coastal, which (IMO) makes the Coastal much more agile and usable for different applications.

 

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Just now, freelancer27 said:

I think the Lexa is best when you are 100% inshore fishing and you are probably casting lures that can be trolled. The reel is almost 2 oz heavier than the Coastal, which (IMO) makes the Coastal much more agile and usable for different applications.

 

Yeah the coastal would probably fit my uses of the reel better because for inshore I would be catching smaller snook, reds, specks, and jack crevalle and I would be catching bass in freshwater. The 200 size sets my needs for both so I will probably end up with the coastal. It retails for I think $230 and on amazon it is $150 so you can't beat that.

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I have to say I have never cast either the Coastal or the Lexa Wn reels. They have much of the same technology my Tatulas use so they should play just as well. However pay attention the Lexa WN reels hold a lot more line so i would favor a Lexa WN 300 if I was going for one.  Check pricing on The Tackle Trap, Amazon, and Tackle Warehouse.

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Abu orra2 inshore. Awesome reel. Big boy drag, tons of line capacity, sealed bearings and oversize brass gears. Not to mention since they have started an inshore model in the revo line, the Orra has gotten cheaper by the day. I got one in the mail last week brand new in the box for $71 to my door. Worth a look. But that makes the 3rd one for me lol

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6 hours ago, haggard said:

I had no idea what you were talking about until I did a search - that's funny! I don't know anything about their products but good for them for doing something different I say. I certainly hope the censorship isn't real though. 

 

I agree, odd that the Citica isn't specified as saltwater rated on the mfr site. I found it categorized as such at a retailer site. Doesn't necessarily mean it's right.

 

It is.

 

6 hours ago, Frogliza said:

The censorship is real sadly. *** is not one of bassresource's sponsors so it is censored. And yeah it doesn't necessarily mean that. 

AFAIK you have the wrong reason.  My understanding is they were banned because the company had guys on here spamming their products.  No doubt that would have been allowed if they were a sponsor.  I doubt they would have been banned if their products had been mentioned occasionally instead of constantly by the same people.  Lots of products get mentioned on here without the parent company being a sponsor.

 

I know nothing about owning websites or maintaining them, but seriously doubt it can be done for free.  I don't think it is fair to the owner(s) for people to come on here hawking their products without paying for that right.  If you want to advertise, then pay for it like everyone else.  Otherwise let word of mouth by those with no ties to the company spread the word.

 

I don't know about you, but this is one site I try to visit every day.  I imagine sponsors help make that possible.

 

Hopefully I have not overstepped any bounds with my post.  If I have, there will be no hard feelings on my side if my post gets deleted.  (And hopefully no hard feelings by the powers that be.  :teeth: )

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@FoulHooked- if you don't mind, PM me the place you got the Orra2 for that price. Thanks!

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21 hours ago, JustJames said:

@Frogliza

I think you are confused a little bit here. Any reels made can be use either fresh or salt water, the only exception is the one with magnesium material that not salt corroded resistant and not recommended to use in saltwater.

Now the different between using reel in fresh water and saltwater is maintenances. If any reels get in touch with saltwater, those reels should be clean, rinse or service right away to prevent any damage from salt (no material can withstand salt even reel that specific for heavy saltwater used)

which reel to choose is up to many factors, targeted fish, line capacity, speed, drag system and such. You don't want to use bass reel if you target big saltwater fish, the line capacity is not enough, you can't control fish and you might get spooled very easily.

Mostly the size of reel like 70, 200 300 400 is for Line capacity, bigger number is more Line capacity and bigger size reel and more weight. Now in bass world most of the techniques you won't need a lot of  line capacity and some prefer smaller reel so the size 70, 200 would served them just fine, but for those that fish with big swimbait would need bigger line, or more line capacity so they would need bigger reel like 300-400 size reel. Now which reel would fit your need to be able to handle bass and inshore fishing is up to you.

Not necessarily true. Watched Fluke pull in a massive black drum on a smaller spooled reel from a company that can’t be mentioned on here. 

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Guys, Glenn censors that company not because they sent people in hawking their gear, but rather we had some childish members really trashing that brand and Glenn was informed to either shut it down or suffer legal and thus financial hardship.  Those members were quickly dealt with and are no longer members. He put in place a censor to avoid any mention of their products as required.

 

It was nothing Glenn wanted to do, it was something he had to do.

That happened quite a while ago. It is a shame, because today the equipment they make has as loyal a following as any brand and it would be a positive if their brand could be discussed openly. I do not use any of their gear personally but I believe the overall discussion would be a positive for them.  It is their choice though and we can not look at it any other way.

 

 

I would like to make a few clarifications. Everyone is talking like all saltwater fishing is the same. 

I fish tidal brackish water which are sometimes termed "inshore". The salt content on tidal waters can really differ. I regularly fish with my Tatula family reels ( and Curados, Chronarchs and BPS) on the tidal portions of the Chesapeake Bay including the tributaries such as the Potomac River, Middle River, The Gunpowder and the eastern shore rivers such as the Choptank. These rivers share both fresh water and a constantly changing level of salt water. I chase yellow perch, bass and rock fish ( stripers) and catfish and do not always flush my reels upon return. This has not caused me any issues. 

If however, I was fishing in much saltier areas I would need to always flush my equipment.  So take the actual water you intend to fish into account, is it more brackish or truly saltwater?

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Guys, Glenn censors that company not because they sent people in hawking their gear, but rather we had some childish members really trashing that brand and Glenn was informed to either shut it down or suffer legal and thus financial hardship.  Those members were quickly dealt with and are no longer members. He put in place a censor to avoid any mention of their products as required.

 

It was nothing Glenn wanted to do, it was something he had to do.

That happened quite a while ago. It is a shame, because today the equipment they make has as loyal a following as any brand and it would be a positive if their brand could be discussed openly. I do not use any of their gear personally but I believe the overall discussion would be a positive for them.  It is their choice though and we can not look at it any other way.

 

 

I would like to make a few clarifications. Everyone is talking like all saltwater fishing is the same. 

I fish tidal brackish water which are sometimes termed "inshore". The salt content on tidal waters can really differ. I regularly fish with my Tatula family reels ( and Curados, Chronarchs and BPS) on the tidal portions of the Chesapeake Bay including the tributaries such as the Potomac River, Middle River, The Gunpowder and the eastern shore rivers such as the Choptank. These rivers share both fresh water and a constantly changing level of salt water. I chase yellow perch, bass and rock fish ( stripers) and catfish and do not always flush my reels upon return. This has not caused me any issues. 

If however, I was fishing in much saltier areas I would need to always flush my equipment.  So take the actual water you intend to fish into account, is it more brackish or truly saltwater?

Thanks for letting us know the reason behind that particular brand being censored. I never understood it. They don’t seem to be the type to aggressively hawk their goods and quite a few people who work with them closely have nothing but good things to say about the people there. It’s a shame that a few bad apples ruined things for the rest of us. 

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Yes, most fresh water reels will work fine in brackish or salt water. That being said, there are qualities that make some better than others both in terms of functionality and durability. A good smooth drag, metal frame, and strong gears are just words when you are reeling in LMBs, and you'll be blissfully reeling in trout, flounder, ladyfish and the like, when along will come a cobia, bull red or shark and then you'll know.

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Boy I can see I was up to late when I made my earlier post!-_-

I hot most of my points right but I left out an important detail that made me look lie an idiot. i meant to say I fish tidal water with my Daiwa Tatula family reels but previously used my Curados,Chronarchs and BPS reels. None of them were ever damaged by fishing tidal water and I do not flush them immediately when returning home.  If I fished say the Delaware Bay instead of the Chesapeake Bay things would be different, since the Delaware is much saltier.

 

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I also recommend Orra Inshore. I bought one to fish in Florida while visiting friends for Reds/Snook and Bass. Great reel and not that expensive on ebay.

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On 1/11/2018 at 8:51 PM, Frogliza said:

 

I'll check both out. Would the new Shimano Curado K be a good inshore reel? It says it is rated for saltwater on shimano's cite

That’s the only thing I’ve heard slightly bad about the Curado K, is that it doesn’t handle salt well. You could get the Z, a Lew’s(Not as smooth as the Curado), or Curado K.

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