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Looking for advice on a light-tackle baitcasting setup. I fish three baits - Pond Magic spinnerbaits (3/16 oz), wacky-rigged Senkos (4" weightless), and hollow-bodied frogs (1/4 oz, right now LiveTargets but I may switch before the summer to Booyahs). I want to put together one setup that can throw all of these well, I've been using inshore gear for this because it's all I had. 

I figured a baitcasting setup would be the best setup for these baits, but would I be better suited with a spinning reel? 

What rod, reel, line would you go with? Looking to spend maybe $150-$200 tops. 

 

EDIT: Anyone think that I could put together a setup to throw these lures for bass, as well as throwing bait rigs and maybe smaller jigs for 8-10"+ bluegill? I exclusively hop around ponds that typically require hiking through woods to get to, so I don't want to carry more than one rod with me. 

 

Thanks,

Drew

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I know you said baitcaster but personally I would stick with ML/fast action spinning rod, and if in tight bank areas or you're skipping keep rod short, I have 6'3" and 6'10". I use my ML 6'10" rod for your uses and have 6lb mono on size 2500 reel and only target bass. MY ML's go from 1/16 - 1/2 so you will be covered with ML.

 

Can't help on brand but best of luck.

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4 minutes ago, 68camaro said:

I know you said baitcaster but personally I would stick with ML/fast action spinning rod, and if in tight bank areas or you're skipping keep rod short, I have 6'3" and 6'10". I use my ML 6'10" rod for your uses and have 6lb mono on size 2500 reel and only target bass. MY ML's go from 1/16 - 1/2 so you will be covered with ML.

 

Can't help on brand but best of luck.

I think you're right, in that price range.

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I don't know of any bait caster and rod that will do what you want and be in that price range.  Lots of spinning combos will do that job very well.

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Okay, sounds like a Pflueger Trion is gonna be my go-to then. Any rod recommendations for $100 or less? 

Sounds like a rod a bit under 7' would be ideal, with a medium light power rating. Will that remain run on larger panfish as well, or should I bump down to a light or ultralight?

 

Line recommendations?

 

Thanks,

Drew

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If you want to spend $150-$200 on the reel alone then get a Curado 70 or a Daiwa CT SV. For a rod, you could get a cheap one at Walmart that loads 1/16 oz or Dobyns makes finesse rods for casting if you want higher quality. If you want to cast lighter and heavier lures then get a Daiwa Tatula SV TWS. 

 

You would be better suited to get a spinning combo, with spinning combos, it’s more about the rod than the reel. It’s pretty tough to find a bad quality spinning reel, in my opinion.  

11 minutes ago, biggiesmalls said:

Okay, sounds like a Pflueger Trion is gonna be my go-to then. Any rod recommendations for $100 or less? 

Sounds like a rod a bit under 7' would be ideal, with a medium light power rating. Will that remain run on larger panfish as well, or should I bump down to a light or ultralight?

 

Line recommendations?

 

Thanks,

Drew

I’d look at the line rating and lure rating of the rod while you decide the action.

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Thanks for the replies everyone. Definitely going with a Pflueger Trion - treated me well for years, especially for $30. 

Rods, not sure yet. Looking to spend $100 or less on the rod - BPS microlight maybe? 

 

For bluegill I'll mostly be free-lining baits, but also float rigs and occasionally carolina rigs with light egg sinkers. Occasionally lures as well - I like a 1/32 ounce Road Runner, might have to upsize to 1/16 ounce though. Is there a rod that can still throw 1/32 ounce and handle heavier bass lures up to 1/4 ounce? I also fish Rebel hard baits which are typically as low as 1/16 ounce. 

 

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4 hours ago, biggiesmalls said:

Looking for advice on a light-tackle baitcasting setup. I fish three baits - Pond Magic spinnerbaits (3/16 oz), wacky-rigged Senkos (4" weightless), and hollow-bodied frogs (1/4 oz, right now LiveTargets but I may switch before the summer to Booyahs). I want to put together one setup that can throw all of these well, I've been using inshore gear for this because it's all I had. 

I figured a baitcasting setup would be the best setup for these baits, but would I be better suited with a spinning reel? 

What rod, reel, line would you go with? Looking to spend maybe $150-$200 tops. 

 

EDIT: Anyone think that I could put together a setup to throw these lures for bass, as well as throwing bait rigs and maybe smaller jigs for 8-10"+ bluegill? I exclusively hop around ponds that typically require hiking through woods to get to, so I don't want to carry more than one rod with me. 

 

Thanks,

Drew

 Despite what everyone will tell you, you can put together some downright cheap finesse casting combos.  I've put together a number myself including UL casting builds.  I'm talking 1/32 oz jig heads and 1 inch plastics type UL.  

 

You're not going to be able to do a bluegill jig setup and 1/4 oz frogs in the same build.  You're going to need two rigs for that, most likely a ML casting rig and an UL to handle the bluegill jigs.  You can go somewhere in between with a L rod but you'll suffer on the low and and high end of what you want to throw.  There are a lot of 2 pieces rods out there and back packs that are designed to transport disassembled 2 piece rods shore fishing so carrying more than one rod with you may be an option.

 

 ML build:

 

Kastking Spartacus https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KastKing-Spartacus-Max-8kg-Drag-Baitcasting-Reel-12-BBs-Dual-Brake-System-Lure-Fishing-Reel-for/32708673985.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.310d6c5eRHHVXA&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_5722311_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_38,ppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=874b03d8-f508-460f-8781-9d2bd198326b-0&algo_pvid=874b03d8-f508-460f-8781-9d2bd198326b&priceBeautifyAB=0

Shallow spool for Kastking Spartacus https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/SeaKnight-Metal-ELF1200-Shallow-Spare-Spool-18g-ELF-1200-Only/1166220_32735821807.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.61df284fHqxxl1

 

 

Trulinoya XF-50 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Trulinoya-Baitcasting-Fishing-Reel-9-1BB-6-6-1-Lure-Fishing-Wheel-Carretilhas-De-Pescaria-Carretilha/32824584082.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.120.5a3a19daujRNP8&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_5722311_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_38,ppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=3cebd8e3-e026-4e7f-88f4-bc448bba2c51-18&algo_pvid=3cebd8e3-e026-4e7f-88f4-bc448bba2c51&priceBeautifyAB=0

Trulinoya XF-50 video 

Daiwa Fuego: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_14?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=daiwa+fuego+ct&sprefix=daiwa+fuego+ct%2Caps%2C4897&crid=1Y3OZGJ8B3HIQ&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Adaiwa+fuego+ct

 

Tatula CT/Fuego CT shallow spool.  Air brake and tapered induction.  Super nice finesse spool.  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DIY-DAIWA-TATULA-CT-TYPE-R-TATULA-CT-CS-CUSTOM-FISHING-REEL-SPOOL-LONG-CAST-SPOOL/32814779714.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.14ed1ddcX2w3kE&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_5722311_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_38,ppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=59e9ea25-fcb0-4cc3-8dba-bfc5b64cc641-0&algo_pvid=59e9ea25-fcb0-4cc3-8dba-bfc5b64cc641&priceBeautifyAB=0

 

Berkley Lightning Rod 2017 6'6'' M.  This rod as a soft tip that fishes like a ML rod.  I fish 1/20 oz Shroomz heads on 2.75 inch TRDs which weigh in at 3/16 oz total weight.http://www.berkley-fishing.com/berkley-rods-casting-rods-berkley-lightning-rod/berkley-lightning-rod-casting/1447330.html#specifications

 

Kuying Topcaster https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KUYING-TOP-CASTER-2-1M-Spinning-Casting-Lure-Fishing-Rod-Cane-Stick-Pole-ML-Light-Soft/32821628237.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.28a049d20SaF2k&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_5722311_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_38,ppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=a1d71aae-7bd6-4cf9-be07-104b5ea55cfa-0&algo_pvid=a1d71aae-7bd6-4cf9-be07-104b5ea55cfa&priceBeautifyAB=0

 

The Kastking with Sea Knight Elf spool or Trulinoya on the Lightning rod would be the lower end combo with the Fuego CT with DIY Long Cast spool on the Kuying Topcaster would be the higher end budget combo. 

 

L build:

 

Any of the reels above with a Kuying Teton 6'6'' L https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KUYING-Teton-1-98m-Soft-Casting-Spinning-Lure-Fishing-Rod-Pole-Cane-Light-2-Sections-Carbon/32829349764.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.1.61947eeaDbXEzS&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_5722311_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_38,ppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=e970e0a8-17f2-4355-9c73-c1ccaed27eca-0&algo_pvid=e970e0a8-17f2-4355-9c73-c1ccaed27eca&priceBeautifyAB=0

 

 

UL build:

 

Abu Black Max 3 

 

Studio of Momo spool for BM3/Pro Max https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DIY-ABU-BLACK-MAX3-SILVER-MAX3-PMAX3-ORRA2-CUSTOM-HONEYCOMB-FISHING-REEL-SPOOL-9-5g/1629494_32775929724.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.37301cecCQW4La

 

Shimano Bass One

 

Ray's Studio DIY spool for Bass One https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DIY-FISHING-REEL-SPOOL-FOR-BASS-ONE-XT-150-151-lightweight-fishing-reel-spool/1629494_32850841780.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.37301cecCQW4La

 

Daiwa Fuego 

 

Ray's Studio spool for Daiwa Tatula Ct/Fuego CT https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/DIY-DAIWA-TATULA-CT-TYPE-R-CUSTOM-FISHING-REEL-SPOOL-LIGHT-WEIGHT-SPOOL/1629494_32764479524.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.37301cecCQW4La

 

Seaknight POTM https://www.aliexpress.com/item/SeaKnight-POTM-7-6-1-High-Speed-Baitcasting-Reel-12BB-5KG-Power-C60-Carbon-Fiber-155g/32835199740.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000013.14.3ba441e9OFwMcs&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2088_7_90158_iswistore&scm=1007.13339.90158.0&pvid=9121d251-19c2-469b-baf4-575364701b8a&tpp=1

 

Kuying Teton UL https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1-9m-Ultra-light-Casting-Spinning-UL-Teton-Lure-Fishing-Rod-with-FUJI-parts/32615757813.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.61947eeaDbXEzS&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_5722311_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_38,ppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=e970e0a8-17f2-4355-9c73-c1ccaed27eca-1&algo_pvid=e970e0a8-17f2-4355-9c73-c1ccaed27eca&priceBeautifyAB=0

 

Dagger Royal Sprit UL https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DAGGER-Royal-Spirit-562UL-Casting-Spinning-Fishing-Rod-Fast-Action-1-68m-Rivulet-Rod-2-sections/32776815698.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.9.25bf4211ogvqnD&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10151_10065_10344_10130_10068_10324_10342_10547_10325_10546_10343_10340_10548_10341_10545_10084_10083_10618_10307_5711211_10313_10059_5722311_10534_100031_10103_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_10142,searchweb201603_38,ppcSwitch_7&algo_expid=bb661145-e9b9-429a-8825-a12c3c19ab7d-0&algo_pvid=bb661145-e9b9-429a-8825-a12c3c19ab7d&priceBeautifyAB=0

 

 

I have both the Kastking Spartacus with Sea Knight elf shallow spool on 6'6'' M LR and an Abu Black Max 3 with a Studio of Momo spool on a Kuying Teton 662L.  I use the Kastking/LR  to throw 1/20 to 3/16 oz jigs and the BM3/Teton as an UL setup for 1/8 oz hardballs like Rebel teeny series and 1/32 to 1/16 oz jigs and plastics.  I've got a bunch of high end BFS setups but there are my low end experiments and they do perform well. 

 

 

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Very nice BaitFinesse.  Impressive.  My skill is no where near your level yet.  I have no problem with a 3/16 oz. (5.33g) Shad Raps.  One of the combos I use for that lure cost me $105 total.  Used Crankin' Stick and used older Carbonlite.

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14 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said:

Very nice BaitFinesse.  Impressive.  My skill is no where near your level yet.  I have no problem with a 3/16 oz. (5.33g) Shad Raps.  One of the combos I use for that lure cost me $105 total.  Used Crankin' Stick and used older Carbonlite.

Skill has nothing to do with it.  With the right equipment it becomes simple.  For example my Black Max 3 with Studio of Momo spool will cast UL baits with thumb free ease.  It's effortless roll casts sending UL baits flying while the powerful linear mag brake controls the 9.5 grams spool (with bearing).  The Ray's Studio bearings I have on the reel help as well.  They're like china knock offs of the Hedgehog BFS Air bearings.  It's easy fish the right equipment and the right equipment can even be had at ultra cheap prices. 

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BaitFinesse, thank you for such a detailed post. Loving those options, especially for those cheaper prices! Would anything draw you to one of those rods/reels over the others listed? 

 

Would you prefer spinning or casting? My main thing is going to be fishing one rod here, that's my style when bank fishing - one rod, one tackle sling, that's it. Maybe I'll have to get two setups and just bring one out at a time. 

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40 minutes ago, BaitFinesse said:

Skill has nothing to do with it.  With the right equipment it becomes simple.  For example my Black Max 3 with Studio of Momo spool will cast UL baits with thumb free ease.  It's effortless roll casts sending UL baits flying while the powerful linear mag brake controls the 9.5 grams spool (with bearing).  The Ray's Studio bearings I have on the reel help as well.  They're like china knock offs of the Hedgehog BFS Air bearings.  It's easy fish the right equipment and the right equipment can even be had at ultra cheap prices. 

Guess I don't have the right equipment yet.  That or I am very inept.  The ML Crankin' Stick is rated down to 1/16 oz. as is my Falcon Expert Light.  On the expensive end I have a PXL Type R and a tuned and upgraded Pixy Airy Red (original spool was replaced...and not mentioned by seller).  I can cast a 1/8 oz. spinnerbait, but not as well as I'd like.

 

I also use a tuned and upgraded TD-Z 105H on an older Fenwick HMG 7' ML for #5 Shad Raps.  The seller said he went a lot lower with that set up.  Not me.  :(

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Instead of the pfeugler trion take a look at the Daiwa revros. Decent bit smoother and solid built reel.st croix bass x in 6-10 ml would be a good choice rod to match with it. 

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Finesse goes two ways. 

Spinning is the more popular of the two, for that I’d go ML or Medium 6’10-7’3 pairing with a 2500-3000 reel. 

 

Casting go ML with Curado 70 or Tatula SV. The reels are great for throwing light tackle. 

 

Personally stick with a spinning setup even though I have a casting set up for finesse baits. 

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I use a okuma on an ugly stick GX2. 8 lb trilene crystal with maxima leader for all my light applications  including  ned rig.  No expert here.  

 

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15 hours ago, new2BC4bass said:

Guess I don't have the right equipment yet.  That or I am very inept.  The ML Crankin' Stick is rated down to 1/16 oz. as is my Falcon Expert Light.  On the expensive end I have a PXL Type R and a tuned and upgraded Pixy Airy Red (original spool was replaced...and not mentioned by seller).  I can cast a 1/8 oz. spinnerbait, but not as well as I'd like.

 

I also use a tuned and upgraded TD-Z 105H on an older Fenwick HMG 7' ML for #5 Shad Raps.  The seller said he went a lot lower with that set up.  Not me.  :(

You should check out one of the Kuying Teton UL casting rods.  They really are great for the price and with a PX68 w/ DIY loaded with 4lb mono it will cast a 1/16 inline pretty well and launch a 1/8 one.  

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1 hour ago, fishwizzard said:

You should check out one of the Kuying Teton UL casting rods.  They really are great for the price and with a PX68 w/ DIY loaded with 4lb mono it will cast a 1/16 inline pretty well and launch a 1/8 one.  

I've been thinking about getting the rod since the above post.  The spools aren't that expensive from DIY so maybe one of those too.

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Yes, with an ultra-light rod and a DIY spool I have no doubt that any problem is me, not the gear.  

 

I am really really into throwing inline spinners on UL casting gear.  Once you get it dailed in a little flick of the wrist will shoot the lure out like a lazer and if you like living dangerously, you can bomb them out there. 

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OP, any baitcaster should be able to handle your choices of lure you listed, but if you plan to use the same setup for panfish then you are looking into headaches. For your suitation of 1 rod 1 reel, ML spinning setup should work better. 

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On 2/11/2018 at 9:12 PM, new2BC4bass said:

I have no problem with a 3/16 oz. (5.33g) Shad Raps. 

Haha! Most people do. That's why everyone's recommending a spinning combo. I have a M 7' rod with the aforementioned Trion reel. I use this combo mostly for smaller treble lures. The rod is a lightning rod. If I were using it a lot for dropshots and other techniques that require sensitivity, I'd upgrade the rod. The reel is a good deal for $40, but for a little more you can step up the Pfleuger line and get lighter reels with a few more bells and whistles.

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On 2/11/2018 at 3:25 PM, biggiesmalls said:

Looking for advice on a light-tackle baitcasting setup. I fish three baits - Pond Magic spinnerbaits (3/16 oz), wacky-rigged Senkos (4" weightless), and hollow-bodied frogs (1/4 oz, right now LiveTargets but I may switch before the summer to Booyahs). I want to put together one setup that can throw all of these well, I've been using inshore gear for this because it's all I had. 

I figured a baitcasting setup would be the best setup for these baits, but would I be better suited with a spinning reel? 

What rod, reel, line would you go with? Looking to spend maybe $150-$200 tops. 

 

I agree that a spinning outfit is your best bet.

 

For years I fished those same lures mostly in farm ponds and small city lakes, 100% from shore. I used a St Croix 6'6" ML/Fast Premier spinning rod and Shimano 1000 sized Sedona with 6lb Fireline. It was a great combo and though I was going for crappie most of the time it also caught plenty of good sized bass. That falls right at your upper end budget. That's my suggestion. 

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When I fish a frog, there's nothing finesse about it.  I may throw it on either a baitcaster or a spinning setup but it is always braid and a heavier action.  

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Thanks everyone for the replies - very informative! I would've never thought of using a baitcaster for ultralight, but here we are! 

 

Perhaps I could carry two rods - if I went with two-piece setups. I carry an Orvis tackle sling, so I'd have to find a way to strap them to the sling, wouldn't be too bad though. Or, I could just pick what I want to go out for in a day, either bass or panfish - and bring something accordingly. Worst case, pack both rods in the car and walk back if I REALLY need to change it up from one and go for the other. 

If I did that, I'd go with a ML rod in the 6'6"-6'10" range with a smaller baitcaster with custom spool for bass, and an UL rod in the 6' range with a small spinner for bluegill. 

Personally, I don't see the point in spending tons of money on freshwater gear, right now any more than $50 on a rod or reel seems like a waste to me. (why spend money on freshwater when I can spend money on shark gear? ;))

 

Sounds like the AliExpress rods and reels are a winner to me. One each utlralight and medium or medium light rod, one each light baitcaster and ultralight spinner. 

 

That Royal Spirit ultralight rod is sweet looking for the $35 asking price. Unfortunately it's in 5'6", only step up is a 7' model which I don't really like in ultralight - might give it a shot though for $38! 

 

Drew

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