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I was making a JDM order last night when I ran across these for $13.31, $4.68 cheaper than what they're being sold for here in the states. It's the same bait folks and I added a few to my order.

 

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14 minutes ago, Harold Scoggins said:

I was making a JDM order last night when I ran across these for $13.31, $4.68 cheaper than what they're being sold for here in the states. It's the same bait folks and I added a few to my order.

 

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Sweet - How about a link ?

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A-Jay

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25 minutes ago, Harold Scoggins said:

That's quite all right

I have been eye balling thay 3/4 version for a while.

And now I'm on it .....

Thank you

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A-Jay 

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1 minute ago, punch said:

Except for the 20 bucks shipping :(

My shipping was $15, but my total savings on my order was just shy of $65, well worth it IMO. I very seldom purchase JDM tackle in the states, too much of a markup.

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The way I figured it, if I buy 3 and pay for shipped, it comes out to $15.34 each. I will wait for 15 or 20% off sale and get them cheaper in US.

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found these at a domestic tackle retailer...

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15 minutes ago, Dirtyeggroll said:

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found these at a domestic tackle retailer...

If it is the same place I looked, they are all sold out.

 

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3 minutes ago, tander said:

If it is the same place I looked, they are all sold out.

 

Good call. I looked 2 days ago and there were a lot in stock. My bad.

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31 minutes ago, Harold Scoggins said:

Do you know what this says in English? If I was Japanese I might take offense to this, but if it's OK with the admins, then...

$20 is a ripoff, just like Lion King is a Kimba the white lion aname ripoff, no?

 

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This 13.99 "sale" price has been the regular price for over a year. US store /w free shipping over 50$. 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

This 13.99 "sale" price has been the regular price for over a year. US store /w free shipping over 50$. 

 

 

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And what store would that be?

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1 hour ago, I/MBasser said:

And what store would that be?

They outfit sportsmans 

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Playing around with some of the skirts you turned me on to @Bluebasser86. I also learned that "hand tied" doesn't necessarily mean they used wire. I guess thread is alright, but I've always used wire. Anyway, I like the blk/gold glitter scale.

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17 hours ago, Harold Scoggins said:

Playing around with some of the skirts you turned me on to @Bluebasser86. I also learned that "hand tied" doesn't necessarily mean they used wire. I guess thread is alright, but I've always used wire. Anyway, I like the blk/gold glitter scale.

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That's a great jig skirt color, something about it that they just seem to love.

 

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So basically Z-man made a contract with a foreign maker to create their "chatterbait", then buys it, re-brands it with new packaging, and sells it for $20? Yep. That sounds about right...

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20 hours ago, FishDewd said:

So basically Z-man made a contract with a foreign maker to create their "chatterbait", then buys it, re-brands it with new packaging, and sells it for $20? Yep. That sounds about right...

Z-man used Evergreen to manufacture the new lure that they patent and Brett Hite helped design it.  There can be different reasons why a company uses an outside manufacturer to make their product and it's not uncommon.

 

I don't know why some say they are $20 when the retail price is $15.99 and can be found for less.

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28 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Z-man used Evergreen to manufacture the new lure that they patent and Brett Hite helped design it.  There can be different reasons why a company uses an outside manufacturer to make their product and it's not uncommon.

 

I don't know why some say they are $20 when the retail price is $15.99 and can be found for less.

I was under the impression that Evergreen made the lure for years but it could not be sold in the US due to Z-Man’s patent.  Then in the last year or two Z-Man/Evergreen worked out the licensing so now they can be sold in the US. 

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35 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

I was under the impression that Evergreen made the lure for years but it could not be sold in the US due to Z-Man’s patent.  Then in the last year or two Z-Man/Evergreen worked out the licensing so now they can be sold in the US. 

This is correct. Evergreen and Brett created the Jackhammer and it was only available outside of the US. Brett won a few tournaments on it. Promoted the heck out of it to the point everybody wanted one and nobody could find them.  Zman paid Evergreen X amount of dollars to slap their name on it and sell in stateside. The only thing Zman about the Jackhammer is the label. 

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11 minutes ago, iabass8 said:

 The only thing Zman about the Jackhammer is the label. 

I picked up a pair of Jackhammers, a pair of Elites, and a pair of Project Z chatterbaits to try out.  With maybe a dozen casts on each I honeslty cannot tell the difference between the Jackhammers and the Elites.  The Jackhammer might start up a hair faster but unless they get bit a lot more then the Elites I will not be springing for more Jackhammers. 

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3 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

I picked up a pair of Jackhammers, a pair of Elites, and a pair of Project Z chatterbaits to try out.  With maybe a dozen casts on each I honeslty cannot tell the difference between the Jackhammers and the Elites.  The Jackhammer might start up a hair faster but unless they get bit a lot more then the Elites I will not be springing for more Jackhammers. 

Just watching some random under water videos, from what I understand the difference is the sound it creates. You're right though about the feel. Most chatterbaits, generally, feel the same when retrieved. Some thump harder or start up quicker or slower. The Jackhammer is essentially the same bait with an upgraded hook, paint, and skirt colors as the old old Phenix Chatterbait and the original RAD ( i think that's what it was called) before Zman purchased the patent. You'll see these pop up from time to time but they're even more expensive than the Jackhammer. Probably more of a nostalgia price tag but it's usually around 25$ each.  I've tried most of the Zman, lots of homemade stuff, some local stuff and I don't know why but the Jackhammer just gets bit more and better. Has to be noise of the blade. They all catch fish though.  The tactical bassing guys did a pretty good video comparing a lot of them. The TW chatterbait custom is a very close replica , according to matt, to the jackhammer but it's just got a smaller hook. 

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