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Boating in Vermont as an out of stater

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As some of you know, I've been wanting to buy a boat for some time now but hitting speed bump after speed bump. Well, last year I got a really nice raise and it looks like I can make that happen either this year or next year, although ideally next year which would allow me to get rid of my student loan payment and then I could replace it with a boat loan and throw a little extra at it and pay it off roughly when my oldest son starts college.

 

What I can't figure out is the Vermont boat laws. I live in Massachusetts right across the Vermont border but most of my favorite fishing lakes are in Vermont. Vermont seems to require a NASBLA approved boating safety course, which a MA course does not seem to meet the requirements for, but in order to take the Vermont course, a requirement is I would need to be a Vermont resident. They don't seem to give much information as what courses I could take that would be considered acceptable to legally operate a boat in Vermont.


Has anyone here ran into this issue?

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Sounds like they don't want people to come to Vermont. Try contacting the their Fish and Wild Life for clarification.

The Vermont Fish & Wildlife Department
103 South Main Street, Waterbury, VT 05671-0501
Phone: 802-241-3700.

 

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Viewing the following site it doesn't look like a NASBLA approved boating safety course is state specific. Looks more like a one and done thing too me.

 

https://www.boat-ed.com/blog/2013/05/30/can-you-use-your-boating-license-in-another-state/

 

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Do I have to be a resident to take the Maryland Boat Ed Course?

You do not have to be a resident of Maryland to take this online course.

 

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Is my Maryland Boating Safety Education Certificate accepted elsewhere?

For visiting boaters, all states, territories, and provinces will recognize boating education cards that meet NASBLA requirements and Canadian Pleasure Craft Operator Cards that meet Transport Canada’s requirements. (This is known as “reciprocity.”)

 

 

 

 

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35 minutes ago, kenmitch said:

Viewing the following site it doesn't look like a NASBLA approved boating safety course is state specific. Looks more like a one and done thing too me.

 

https://www.boat-ed.com/blog/2013/05/30/can-you-use-your-boating-license-in-another-state/

 

 

 

 

 

 

boat-ed doesn't offer a course for MA and won't let me take one for Vermont if I'm not a resident, which is why I'm confused.

 

I might be able to take the New York course. I guess I will have to call and ask, but you think they'd do a better job of documenting this somehow.

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3 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

boat-ed doesn't offer a course for MA and won't let me take one for another state if I'm not a resident, which is why I'm confused.

You missed the hinted Maryland quote?

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7 minutes ago, kenmitch said:

You missed the hinted Maryland quote?

MA is Massachusetts.

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8 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

MA is Massachusetts.

I realize that you live in Massachusetts. 

 

You can take the Maryland one which doesn't require you to be a resident of the state. It is valid in all states that require the NASBLA approved boating safety course according to boat-ed.com

 

Other states don't require being a resident it looks like. Just pick one of them.

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1 hour ago, kenmitch said:

I realize that you live in Massachusetts. 

 

You can take the Maryland one which doesn't require you to be a resident of the state. It is valid in all states that require the NASBLA approved boating safety course according to boat-ed.com

 

Other states don't require being a resident it looks like. Just pick one of them.

Okay thanks, I wasn't sure. I'll take New Yorks since I also live pretty much over the NY border.

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

Check https://www.nasbla.org/education/approved-boating-courses

They list the states that have the courses and how long the licenses are good through.

I saw this. MA lists boat-ed as expiring in 2018 however I don't need it for MA. MA does have a course you can take to lower your insurance or to drive a boat if you are under 18, but ironically Vermont doesn't recognize it.

 

It looks like I can take the NY course and that will work.

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I’m not privy to vermonts state laws requiring boating within their state but I can tell you as a resident of state ME with your boat registered in state ME you should be able to take your boat to any state and Canada to fish without worrying about conforming to their laws of residency.  Usually their only requirements are safety related requiring USCG requirements. As long as your boat confirms to your state of residency requirements your are good to go. 

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46 minutes ago, Dwight Hottle said:

I’m not privy to vermonts state laws requiring boating within their state but I can tell you as a resident of state ME with your boat registered in state ME you should be able to take your boat to any state and Canada to fish without worrying about conforming to their laws of residency.  Usually their only requirements are safety related requiring USCG requirements. As long as your boat confirms to your state of residency requirements your are good to go. 

Thanks! I wonder if that's only for renting a boat?

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16 minutes ago, Boomstick said:

Thanks! I wonder if that's only for renting a boat?

I’m talking about boat ownership. 

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15 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said:

I’m talking about boat ownership. 

I know, I just mean I wonder if they only want the course if you rent one in VT but didn't clearly specify. Sorry for not being clear.

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Sounds like many states will work, but FYI you can take NY's online, takes a bit of time, but it's free and good info. Just do it.

 

I have been checked in VT before, make sure you comply to their safety requirements (as far as stuff you carry). NY for instance requires less/different stuff.

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Here is the list of approved courses offered by the State of MA.

https://www.mass.gov/service-details/boating-safety-course-schedule

 

Boat and Recreation Vehicle Safety Bureau

Address

PO Box 1325, Forestdale, MA 02644

 

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1 hour ago, LadiMopar said:

Here is the list of approved courses offered by the State of MA.

https://www.mass.gov/service-details/boating-safety-course-schedule

 

Boat and Recreation Vehicle Safety Bureau

Address

PO Box 1325, Forestdale, MA 02644

 

I saw this but the MA courses aren't approved by Vermont, it's a different set of standards from most states. So I'm set in MA and I need to take the NY course, and then my kids will have to take both courses if I ever let them operate the boat before they're 18 (or MA's to operate it in MA etc). Confusing, isn't it?

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2 hours ago, Boomstick said:
3 hours ago, LadiMopar said:

 

I saw this but the MA courses aren't approved by Vermont, it's a different set of standards from most states. So I'm set in MA and I need to take the NY course, and then my kids will have to take both courses if I ever let them operate the boat before they're 18 (or MA's to operate it in MA etc). Confusing, isn't it?

I agree it's a tad bit confusing, leave it to Bassachusetts to be "different". I did notice on the Vermont State Police site (who would think they were in charge of boat courses?)that Vermont residents take the online class, but they also imply that there are "in person" classes too.  Have you called the VT state police to see if it's true? Hmmmm... I'd be interested to know because I like to fish VT occasionally, and this year I'd be hauling the kayak up. 12.5 ft with motor drive.

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11 hours ago, LadiMopar said:

I agree it's a tad bit confusing, leave it to Bassachusetts to be "different". I did notice on the Vermont State Police site (who would think they were in charge of boat courses?)that Vermont residents take the online class, but they also imply that there are "in person" classes too.  Have you called the VT state police to see if it's true? Hmmmm... I'd be interested to know because I like to fish VT occasionally, and this year I'd be hauling the kayak up. 12.5 ft with motor drive.

I am going to try to call today or tomorrow. It's really hard for me to find time at work these days.

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