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Hi all,

I am looking for a mono line with the least amount of stretch (that preferably still maintains some manageability on a BC reel). 

Looking for it in 14-15 pound test to use it for skipping jigs but also for mid-heary top water lures (like 1 oz spooks).

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Trilene XT might be old school but I think it has less stretch than most mono's. I prefer Stren but XT has less stretch. 

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   This new Sufix Advance is low stretch. I've used it for twitchbaits with good results.  Be careful with your knots, though. I'm still experimenting with finding the right knot for it.    jj

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Haven't tried them all, but here's 3 that I'd select as top performers

Maxima Ultragreen Line

Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo Nylon Line

P-Line CXX 

A-Jay

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Seaguar senshi is great if you can find some. Very small diameter compared to other mono or copoly lines. Handles very well. I use 20lb for heavy spinnerbaits and chatterbaits

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Berkley Sensation is a seldom mentioned co-poly that deserves to be in this conversation

 

oe

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Seaguar Rippin Mono is really nice and seems to have low stretch (I've done no test so I can't confirm, just my observations from on the water). 

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Define strecth. The force applied to yield the line so it elongates is about 33% of the ultimate strength, same as Fluorocarbon line.

Your MH rod can apply about 4 lbs of force before it bottoms out or bend to it's max. You can't "stretch" any 12 lb mono line using a MH rod. If you don't believe this try lifting 1/2 gallon jug of water with you rod and whatever line you like.

Tom

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Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo

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4 hours ago, WRB said:

Define strecth. The force applied to yield the line so it elongates is about 33% of the ultimate strength, same as Fluorocarbon line.

Your MH rod can apply about 4 lbs of force before it bottoms out or bend to it's max. You can't "stretch" any 12 lb mono line using a MH rod. If you don't believe this try lifting 1/2 gallon jug of water with you rod and whatever line you like.

Tom

I recall some other topics where this was explained.  But for clarity,  what we are perceiving as stretch-or lack thereof- is the different coefficient of drag in the water?

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Tom has the "math" correct here that fishing line is rarely taxed to the extent that stretch comes into play. Arriving at the point where line begins to materially stretch is rarely the weak link in the system. The issue is rather parameterized by the characteristics of the rod being used.

 

The most obviously stretchy line I have ever encountered? That Cajun Red mono that often (always?) comes pre-wound on Zebco spincasters. Gosh, that stuff is like a rubber band! If you tried to use, say, the 12 lbs. test strength of this line on a 7'6" Heavy, Fast rod to pull big girls out of goop? Then, we do move into the realm of stretch becoming a factor. The rod is heavy enough, the length long enough to magnify the force created with a big hook set, the line stretchy enough to affect the transmission of force down to the hook. Pretty extreme.

 

Back to the OP's question. He is looking for a BC mono line to both skip jigs and double up for presentations casting rather heavy topwater lures up to 1 oz. I think he has the test strength dialed in about correct in the 14 to 15 lbs. range for doing both here. I'd go with line handling characteristics choosing a line: knot holding, performance on the reel.

 

I'm a Sufix fan.

 

Brad

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Mono is mono to me.  The only differences I can easily see are memory and stiffness.  Stretch is a non factor.  Since you are spooling on a baitcaster, memory will be less of a problem.  Personally, I go with Excel from BPS/Cabelas.  It's cheap and I change it out on a regular basis.  I also keep it treated with a line conditioner.  

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9 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

   This new Sufix Advance is low stretch. I've used it for twitchbaits with good results.  Be careful with your knots, though. I'm still experimenting with finding the right knot for it.    jj

Have no problem with a Palomar knot. I have pulled trees out of the water with 14 lb test. Advance has the least stretch by far of any mono line. 

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11 hours ago, A-Jay said:

Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo Nylon Line

 

6 hours ago, Heartland said:

Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo

^^ This. It will cost you more than a spool of fluoro, but man is it awesome.

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4 hours ago, Arcs&sparks said:

I recall some other topics where this was explained.  But for clarity,  what we are perceiving as stretch-or lack thereof- is the different coefficient of drag in the water?

Drag coeffient is important as it results in line bow under water, the larger diameter the line is drag increases. Monofilament line or mono tends to be larger in diameter per # test creating more bow to tighten up creating a feeling of line stretch.

Tom

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Armilo or Senshi are the 2 I use for that very reason 

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Sufix siege is good and cheap.  Haven't tried advance yet

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Sunline Shooter Defier Armilo has less perceived stretch than any mono I have tried.  Drag and bow due to diameter do play a major roll in what is perceived as stretch but I think the line  itself is at least equally responsible for stretch, feel, sensitivity, etc.

 

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^^^^Hallelujah, someone finally gets it!^^^^

Tom 

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Buy you a spool of Big Game & be done with it!

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Bow in the line bass nothing to do with it if you take out the slack.  All mono and fluro stretch on hooksets.  On a long cast this can add up to a lot of stretch.On a hard hookset you could get 5-6 feet of stretch.

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Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo.  Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers.  Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook.  No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.  

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23 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

Have no problem with a Palomar knot. I have pulled trees out of the water with 14 lb test. Advance has the least stretch by far of any mono line. 

How did you test the " Advance has least stretch of any mono line " part ?

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On 5/15/2019 at 11:08 PM, OkobojiEagle said:

Berkley Sensation is a seldom mentioned co-poly that deserves to be in this conversation

 

oe

I’ve tested quite a few over the years and would agree with OE that Sensation is one that regularly performs well in the lower stretch category, usually near the top with the lines I’ve tested.

 

As for nylon based lines stretching, if you have applied any amount of force at the hook/lure, then there has been some degree of line stretch involved in that overall equation.

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2 hours ago, TOXIC said:

Just a little story. Was doing a show with a rep from Pure Fishing (Trilene) and he did a little demo.  Had a 7ft rod spooled with 12lb mono, walked off about an average cast and held the line with 2 fingers.  Told various people to pick up the rod/reel and jerk like they were setting the hook.  No one pulled the line out from between his fingers.  

   One guy told me, "You don't hook the fish. They hook themselves." I thought he was nuts, but maybe he had something there.      jj

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