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The OP was successful using what he had on prior outings, it wasn't the hook!

Ole Catt once said somedays we are hero's and some days we are zero's, it happens.

Tom

The OP was successful using what he had on prior outings, it wasn't hook!

Ole Catt once said somedays we are hero's and some days we are zero's, it happens.

Tom

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On a trip last year I had 5 bass in a row come unhooked half way to the boat. I don’t know what was going on, but I didn’t dwell on it. I just switched ponds. 

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5 hours ago, WRB said:

The OP was successful using what he had on prior outings, it wasn't the hook!

Ole Catt once said somedays we are hero's and some days we are zero's, it happens.

Tom

The OP was successful using what he had on prior outings, it wasn't hook!

Ole Catt once said somedays we are hero's and some days we are zero's, it happens.

Tom

Nobody has said it was the hook!

Nobody has said it was hook!

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1 hour ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

Nobody has said it was the hook!

Nobody has said it was hook!

You had the post blaming Owner hooks!

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1 hour ago, WRB said:

You had the post blaming Owner hooks!

Tom

Your reading comprehension is lacking!!!

My reply was 100% relevant to the question posed.

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On June 12, 2019 at 6:45 PM, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

Whenever I have an Owner hook tied on. I lose more fish with 
Owner hooks than all other brands combined ever.

Sounds like you are stating a hook issue to me. Owners cutting edge hooks haven't been a issue for me and tokar is now capalizing on the same design. Haven't used Tokars but have fished Owners for decades without any issues.

Tom

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You need to get some sleep you dont understand the question asked!

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3 minutes ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

You need to get some sleep you dont understand the question asked!

I understand the question but you are right not focused on this thread.

Tom

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51 minutes ago, WRB said:

Sounds like you are stating a hook issue to me. Owners cutting edge hooks haven't been a issue for me and tokar is now capalizing on the same design. Haven't used Tokars but have fished Owners for decades without any issues.

Tom

If you would quit trying to get a dig in on me or spin the words around you would realize I didnt blame THE BASSMANS issues on his hooks. I just answered his question. 

On 6/12/2019 at 7:36 PM, The Bassman said:

Anybody ever get on a bad roll where it seems you just can't keep fish pinned? I was about 5 for 20 tonight on a weightless wacky Senko. Other times I can do no wrong. Hook, a Berkley 2/0 weedless wacky Fusion was plenty sharp and the fluorocarbon weedguard is usually not an issue. The fishing gods certainly humbled me.

 Answering the question, in my particular instance, CORRECTLY.

  When I use owner hooks.

Cant be debated cause its my own experience, doesnt matter what your or others experience with same brand is, doesnt negate that when I use owner hooks I cant keep fish pinned that is if they get hooked in the first place.

 

Give me 4/0 Gammy Deep Throats for IKAS...no issues.

 

 

 

 

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Really didn't mean for this to be a war of words about hooks. FWIW I try to rationalize when I'm losing fish that it's all for fun and if they get loose I still enjoyed the fight without having to deal with a deep hooked fish. (Easy to say that at 5:00 AM when I'm not fishing). I appreciate the input but it's time to take a deep breath and relax.

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Bassman, all of the above is true and you can take from it what you believe will help and give you confidence.

 

What I have found follows:

 

PLASTICS

The bass picks up and holds the plastics by their tail as they swim away.

A strong hook set will not set the hook as the hook is not in a position to hit the bass' mouth.

A bass, as stated above, can hold onto your plastic and fight you until it lets go. Usually right at the boat to drive you crazy.

 

TREBLE HOOK AND MOVING BAITS

Short strikes and strikes to move or kill your treble hook/single hook moving baits will cause you to go nuts.

Add a trailer hook to your buzzbaits, Chatterbaits and spinnerbaits.

Sometimes they will not want to eat your treble hook baits and there is nothing you can do.

 

SLACK IN THE LINE

If you do hook a bass you never want to have any slack in the line.

You can put slack in the line without even knowing you are doing it.

Be sure to keep a tight line with the rod tip up.

If the bass starts to jump you then put the rod tip in the water to stop the jumping.

 

PATIENCE

We all have a tendency to set the hook too fast.

Frog fishing is an excellent example of missing fish by setting the hook too fast.

Give the bass time to work the plastic into its mouth, about three to four seconds after they pick it up.

Use MegaStrike or a scent of your choice on all plastics and moving baits. Yes, you put it on all baits, even treble hook baits.

When you see your line move away or do something "strange or out of the ordinary" you reel in the slack, point the rod tip at the place the line enters the water, and set that hook after three or four seconds.

When your moving baits stop or you feel the hit, swing your rod tip from right to left (left to right) at waist height and never, never, never allow any slack in the line for one second. After swinging your rod you hold your rod tip to around 10 or 11 o'clock and the fight is on.

Remember, when fishing topwaters, if the bass short strike your bait you throw a wacky rigged Senko at the location where the topwater was hit. The bass may pick it up as it falls thinking it injured the topwater when it hit it.

 

My friend was fishing a major tournament on Buggs Island lost six straight bass at the boat. Yes, six in a row. He said he was doing everything correctly but the bass came unbuttoned just the same. He has never figured it out nor has his nonboater.

 

It can happen to us all. It has happened to me, too. You just have to keep on fishing.

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I would make sure you are using O-rings (I like 2 crossed) and slide your hook just under the rings and not in your worm at all. This allows most of your hook exposed. Also, I always reel down hard on them until my rod is bent enough I have some of the fish, then i finish with a firm set. 

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I only use Gamakatsu 2/0 and 3/0 if I know the bass are big. I don’t have a problem setting the hook, I’m usually patient depending on how the bite feels and if they’re pulling slack. My problem is setting the hook but my leader is gone from the swivel or my leader is there but my hook is gone. So it’s probably a knot issue?

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Guys, I think Bassman knows how to rig a bait and set a hook. I just think he means some days you lose more fish on the way back to the boat than on other days. For me, those frustrating days make me feel like I'm doing something wrong, even if it's just that the fish are not biting down as aggressively. We've all been there, I think.

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