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Does a heavier mono effect lure fall rate?

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I've had good luck with using 8# mono to bring in several largemouth bass. But I noticed that the line gets stretched REALLY thin and it makes me want to use a thicker line. 

I've been using a weightless T-Rig on a 4/0 hook to fish, and I've read part of it's success relies on the lure's slow fall. 

Will a heavier mono have any real effect on how fast the lure falls?

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I don't think the difference will be noticable or at least I can't tell.  

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In that instance (weightless), yes, you should see a noticeable difference in several aspects (casting distance, “action,” etc), not just fall rate depending on how heavy a line you go to. A slight bump up won’t be as noticeable, but a larger jump will.

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Will increased diameter (water reisistance) and buoyancy make it fall slower?

Maybe slower fall would be even better?

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Yes, in small bumps I'd not be concerned, as the above two posts indicate, you probably won't notice, or it may actually help.

Going from 8 to 10, not a huge bump.

You could also consider copolymer to reduce stretch, and keep the diamater (will sink slightly more?), that's another tool you consider using.

 

I recall midwest Ned saying in some cases he uses 10lbs fluoro to help it fall correctly due to larger diamater...

 

Anyway, if you can watch it in a swimming pool and decide for yourself, to set those concerns to rest, that would be ideal.

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Heavier mono will sink slower, which sounds like the action you are after. 

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On a related note I have been using a 7' medium spinning rod with a fast tip. It's rated for 10# line. Would a medium-heavy rod be a better investment? I fish on weedy banks in reservoirs (maybe I'm just looking to justify buying new equipment 😁)

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Short answer is yes, heavier mono will affect the fall rate.  There is a long answer, but it is midnighthirty, & I'm liquored up and can' really offer the long answer right now.  Perhaps someone else will .. ..

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On 6/26/2019 at 7:30 AM, JBT1981 said:

I've had good luck with using 8# mono to bring in several largemouth bass. But I noticed that the line gets stretched REALLY thin and it makes me want to use a thicker line. 

I've been using a weightless T-Rig on a 4/0 hook to fish, and I've read part of it's success relies on the lure's slow fall. 

Will a heavier mono have any real effect on how fast the lure falls?

What type of plastic when you say weightless t-rig, senko, thickworm, finesse worm, craw type?

Instead of increase line size which might decrease bite rate and loose contact with your bait, I would start off by go down in hook size. I have use 1/0 and even smaller light wire on 6.5” worm. If that not slow enough, my second choice would be 10-15lb braid.

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On June 26, 2019 at 7:30 AM, JBT1981 said:

I've had good luck with using 8# mono to bring in several largemouth bass. But I noticed that the line gets stretched REALLY thin and it makes me want to use a thicker line. 

I've been using a weightless T-Rig on a 4/0 hook to fish, and I've read part of it's success relies on the lure's slow fall. 

Will a heavier mono have any real effect on how fast the lure falls?

Stretch REALLY thin? Can you confirm that statement with facts?

Tom

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The brand of mono varies greatly regarding diameter per lb test. The larger the diameter of mono line is the more memory it has meaning going up in diameter over .011dia and your spinning reel will not be able to cast the line without coils hitting your spinning rods 1st larger guide. 

Sink rate of soft plastics without line varies greatly between brands, in fact some brands float without a hook or line. What type of soft plastics has a greater impact on sink rates. 

4/0 worm hook also varies greatly in wire diameters depending on the brand and type of hook. Hooks add weight that increases sink rate.

Your Mediun power rod can't put enough pulling force to strecth 8 lb mono line, in fact I am surprised you can get effective hook set using 4/0 worm hooks!

You don't need BR members to justify new tackle.

Tom

 

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Man asks question, gets aggressively talked to about mono.

 

Okie dokie.

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30 minutes ago, Hook2Jaw said:

Man asks question, gets aggressively talked to about mono.

 

Okie dokie.

Joe Friday would say "just facts ma'am.

Tom

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sometime education is better than answer alone.

 

”give a man a fish and you can only feed him for one day, teach a man to fish and you will feed him a lifetime”

 

thank you tom

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31 minutes ago, WRB said:

Joe Friday would say "just facts ma'am.

Tom

He probably wouldn't call men ma'am over the internet, though.

20 minutes ago, JustJames said:

sometime education is better than answer alone.

 

”give a man a fish and you can only feed him for one day, teach a man to fish and you will feed him a lifetime”

 

thank you tom

Education is fine, but I don't think the attack on the man was justified toward the end.

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I didn't see any attack about using mono. Just a lot of variables in answering the question properly. 

FM

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6 hours ago, WRB said:

You don't need BR members to justify new tackle.

 

 

Just a joke, my friend. Just a joke.

I appreciate your information!

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5 minutes ago, JBT1981 said:

Just a joke, my friend. Just a joke.

I appreciate your information!

I realize that.

To simplify this you can't put heavy enough line on your spinning reel and still be able to cast to notice any change in sink rate.

Tom

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40 minutes ago, WRB said:

I realize that.

To simplify this you can't put heavy enough line on your spinning reel and still be able to cast to notice any change in sink rate.

Tom

Thanks! 

I've only been fishing since March of this year, and I've been teaching myself as I go. I've been relying quite a bit on YouTube videos and their sometimes conflicting information to figure out my tackle and techniques. 

I'm still learning.

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