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So I made a topic earlier asking about the flairs froggin and flippin stick and their reels and most comments were negative to the brand. I have a defender rod made by them and absolutely love it I use it more than my $300 G Loomis so I’m wondering why everyone hates them. 

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Not everyone does, and I'd be willing to wager a large number of people dumping on them have never picked one up, let alone fished one. Then again, they sell a lot of hype and not so much substance seems to be a commonly heard theme among those that have used them. 

 

There's some big name pros using them, albeit only the very top end stuff, so it can't be all bad. 

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I've handled Favorite reels. They were really low quality, with loose tolerances. I played around with 5 different  reels at a fishing show, fresh out of the box, and all 5 had something messed up on them. The vender was totally embarrassed by them. I've never tried out a rod.

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KVD uses quantum, so what pros use has very little bearing on the quality of the brand.

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Their marketing tactics are gimmicky and cringeworthy. So even if they made a decent product, how they portray the brand to us pushes most serious fisherman away. 

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5 hours ago, Smalls said:

Their marketing tactics are gimmicky and cringeworthy. So even if they made a decent product, how they portray the brand to us pushes most serious fisherman away. 

^^ This ^^  Plus they're connected to the Googan Squad, which further tarnishes their brand image.

 

That said, I understand they have a new marketing director, so that's probably all going to change soon.

 

I have both the "White Bird" and the "Big Sexy" rod.  The White Bird is more for trout than bass fishing, so that's sitting in the garage now. 

 

Aside from being heavy, I'm actually impressed with the Big Sexy....although I don't like the name. LOL!  Granted it's one of their most expensive rods.  But even still, I'm a bit embarrassed to admit it's a pretty decent worm/jig rod.

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I agree with the above.  While most guys on here are turned off by the googan association...a lot of younger people are probably saving their lunch money to buy favorite because of the googans.  I dont get the hate either. I'm not a fan of their YouTube content but I respect what theyve accomplished at such an early age. I was chasing my tail and barely surviving at those kids ages. From what I've seen and felt...the reels are probably garbage and kastking would be q much better choice on a budget.  Their rods actually are pretty decent sticks. They're not putting shimano and Loomis out of business anytime soon but theyve filled a niche that has worked for them.

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I don’t hate them. Before this thread I’ve never even heard of them. Maybe because I don’t watch fishing videos on you tube.

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No "hate" from me, just disinterest. Complete, all-consuming disinterest.

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   Favorite exemplifies Chinese business values: unbridled production with zero quality control, and maximum promotion through in-country subordinates, sometimes seen as "sell-outs". Many people really resent that. Others .... meh. Not so much. You pays your dollar, you takes your pick.      jj

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14 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Not everyone does, and I'd be willing to wager a large number of people dumping on them have never picked one up, let alone fished one. Then again, they sell a lot of hype and not so much substance seems to be a commonly heard theme among those that have used them. 

 

There's some big name pros using them, albeit only the very top end stuff, so it can't be all bad. 

I personally love mine but see so much hate on them 

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Call me old fashioned.....I can't take a rod that looks like this seriously.  It is patriotic.  Happy 4th of July...

 

 

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I've never fished with any Favorite products...but my 'distaste' comes down to one factor.

 

Too much 'bling'.

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While I have never tried any of their products, I also fall in “their marketing tactics are cringy” camp.  However if their products prove to be worthwhile either now or in the future, I would probably get over it like I did with Reaction Innovations. 

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3 hours ago, Austin Akins said:

I personally love mine but see so much hate on them 

Have you fished with any other rod brands?

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I have only watched a few videos from some of the guys that have been using them (I think Andrew Flair and 1rod1reel), and I have them break the rods on casts or hooksets a few times.

 

Never handled a Favorite and never plan to.

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I would never buy any of the googan products or favorite brand rods and reels because of legitimate dislike of the "squad" the only one worth your time to listen to is Jacob wheeler and I strongly believe he only backs the products because he likely gets them for free. 

 

 

Plain and simple they are idiots 

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I’ll take my Carbonlite 2.0 or Mojo Bass rods any day over what they have to offer!

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5 hours ago, FishTank said:

Call me old fashioned.....I can't take a rod that looks like this seriously.  It is patriotic.  Happy 4th of July...

 

 

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Here, let's slap stars and stripes on a rod made in China. 

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Where do you think all the flags for sale in Walmart were made?

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Some but I’m sure not all Wal-Mart flags are made by Annin, in the US.

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The guy who runs favorite just seems like a dad who tries to be to young and embarrasses his kids when he tries to be “hip”. Like calling reels lit and fire. It’s all marketing towards the younger generation. It works, big time. There is ugliness to it, but kids like fishing not gonna argue that. They practice brand loyalty. I don’t own any rods, never hear good about them and just can’t buy something that looks like that. I’m only 25, but that gimmicky stuff pushes me away. Focus is not on quality. Dobyns, focus on quality, st.croix focus is the same, and even kastking preaches being the best value. Favorite? “Dude this reel/rod looks lit!” Sorry but I despise that word with every fiber of my being

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Listen to how that reel sounds.  I have never heard one that bad...and they are using this video it to market it.

 

Other than that I am sure a lot of their mid range to high end rods are ok but you are still paying for all their flair and marketing.  

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I haven't fished any Favorite gear, but the amount that they push their brand with various US anglers is off-putting, as others mention, I think the rods look awful with too much "bling" with stupid names like "Big Sexy". I have seen a few snapped in Googan Squad videos. I don't hate the Googan guys (though I really don't care for some of them) and in fact some of them like LFG seem like decent guys who aren't all about hype and putting on a show. There is some skill there but a lot of it is overshadowed by a desire to entertain which heavily discredits them. That attitude, in my mind, gets linked to Favorite, and I think "any brand being pushed this hard by a bunch of guys who are just monkeys in front of a camera is probably not a great brand". Again I like some of the Googan guys despite their antics but I think they are maybe handicapped by their sponsorship from Favorite. I can't imagine how much money Favorite throws at them to slap their logo everywhere and use their rods exclusively. Thank goodness they have the sense not to allow themselves to be forced to use exclusively Favorite reels as well. I wonder if it's a requirement to use Favorite rods if you want to officially be in the Googan Squad.

 

It really comes down to image, and when you consider the tacky looking rods, rod names, and attitude of the people heavily pushing the gear, it's a bad image IMO. I'm a fairly young guy, in my late 20s... but maybe just outside the target audience. I know I put a premium on reliability, value, and in a lot of cases, understated beauty. I don't want stupid flashy rods... give me a black/gray blank with some nice cork on it. It will pair way better with any reel you want to put on it, too. 

 

So to summarize, as MIbassyaker said... I don't hate Favorite. I just have absolutely zero interest in anything they make. Zip, zilch, nada.

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I am not in their demographic.  So I am neither targeted or inclined to use their product.  😉

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