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Just now, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

I would buy your trash CQ51Shallow for a whooping 200 US DOLLARS.

The trash one isn't my beloved 51S, but the CQ BFS'17. The my older Conquests and Caltcuttas are relicts of a time when Shimano cared about refinement and ruggedness, in the same blend.

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1 minute ago, Bass_Fishing_SoCal said:

Ok I bite, I will get your trash CQ BFS for 199 US DOLLARS 😂😂😂😂

I would gladly exchange it for an Alphas CT SV, Abu Garcia Zenon LTX BFS or an older Conquest.

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1 hour ago, ska4fun said:

If Daiwa or Doyo had did something like the listed above, I would bash it, just like I do with Shimano.

Like the Lexa's that would engage the spool mid-cast?

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22 minutes ago, Big Hands said:

Like the Lexa's that would engage the spool mid-cast?

 

Could you post more info about the matter. I have a Lexa 400HD and it never happened, yet I can see it being possible, with the heavier handle.

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19 minutes ago, ska4fun said:

 

Could you post more info about the matter. I have a Lexa 400HD and it never happened, yet I can see it being possible, with the heavier handle.

 

I have talked to people that told me about it. I researched it and found more about it on SU.

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My dream reel was/is the Calcutta Conquest DC. Finally got it last summer and it’s hard for me to even look at my other reels. It’s all I want to use, which is sad because I also have a Tatula SV and a Millionaire CT SV.

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On 1/21/2023 at 5:40 PM, TN bassmaster said:

Has anyone used the curado 70 im thinking about one can anyone tell

me about this reel ? Plan to flip with it.

I had two of them a 7 and 8 speed. Both were incredible for 1.5 seasons. I loved them, then both became rough and I couldn't get them back to new smooth after cleaning, greasing, changing bearings. I switched to Alphas SV's to replace them on the same rods and haven't had an issue. The Alphas don't cast quite as far, but are better reels IMO and much less expensive.

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2 x 22 Bantam A
1 x 20 Metanium B
2 x 18 Bantam MGL
1 x Chronarch MGL
2 x 17 Scorpion DC
1 x Curado MGL 71 K

1 x Vanford 3000
1 x Stradic FL 3000
1 x Stradic FL 1000
2 x Spheros SW 3000
 

Never had any problems but worn-out bearings on few of them, I know, I know someone in here thinks Shimano reels are "Low quality crap" that have all these "Problems". So maybe next time based on my experience, I'll consider buying........................more Shimano!

 

Tatula SV TW 70 maybe?

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, T2DM said:

2 x 22 Bantam A
1 x 20 Metanium B
2 x 18 Bantam MGL
1 x Chronarch MGL
2 x 17 Scorpion DC
1 x Curado MGL 71 K

1 x Vanford 3000
1 x Stradic FL 3000
1 x Stradic FL 1000
2 x Spheros SW 3000
 

Never had any problems but worn-out bearings on few of them, I know, I know someone in here thinks Shimano reels are "Low quality crap" that have all these "Problems". So maybe next time based on my experience, I'll consider buying........................more Shimano!

 

Tatula SV TW 70 maybe?

 

 

 

 

Thoughts on the 22 Bantam vs the 18 Bantam?

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7 minutes ago, Msl819 said:

Thoughts on the 22 Bantam vs the 18 Bantam?  

22 cast better than the 18 for sure, 18 looks better, infinitydrive a bit noticeable. overall it's worth the upgrade if you don't mind the weight.

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Just now, T2DM said:

22 cast better than the 18 for sure, 18 looks better, infinitydrive a bit noticeable. overall it's worth the upgrade if you don't mind the weight.

Good to hear. I love the 18. Hard to imagine the 22 would be noticeably better. I prefer the darker finish myself.

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15 minutes ago, Msl819 said:

Good to hear. I love the 18. Hard to imagine the 22 would be noticeably better. I prefer the darker finish myself.

22 Bantam cast almost as good as the 20 Metanium and it's darker but not glossy finish like the 18, I hate to say it cause I love my Metanium, but the 22 Bantam is a better value for me for the time being IMHO. It gets pretty cold in the hands during the wintertime though that's why I have the Chronarch and the Metanium for really cold weather.

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31 minutes ago, Msl819 said:

Thoughts on the 22 Bantam vs the 18 Bantam?

The Reel Test just tested the two along with the zillion.   You gain 2 yards on average with the 22.  He was casting a frog 131.22  feet roughly with the 18 and 137 feet with the 22.  Not a lot of difference,  but the 22 casts further. Both beat the Zillion.

19 minutes ago, Msl819 said:

Good to hear. I love the 18. Hard to imagine the 22 would be noticeably better. I prefer the darker finish myself.

The 22 wins by 2 yards on average with a frog.  

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7 hours ago, Big Hands said:

 

I have talked to people that told me about it. I researched it and found more about it on SU.

 The yoke wear seems more of a serious issue than that. I didn't saw the HD version being in the reported problematic ones. 

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1 hour ago, ska4fun said:

 The yoke wear seems more of a serious issue than that. I didn't saw the HD version being in the reported problematic ones. 

 If you're referring to the issue of the reel taking it's time to engage when the handle is turned after the cast, I have also seen that issue reported. 

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9 hours ago, Basswhippa said:

The Reel Test just tested the two along with the zillion.   You gain 2 yards on average with the 22.  He was casting a frog 131.22  feet roughly with the 18 and 137 feet with the 22.  Not a lot of difference,  but the 22 casts further. Both beat the Zillion.

The 22 wins by 2 yards on average with a frog.  

 

I see some problems of standardization on the reel test material. He lacks it when comparing out of the box reels with one's already being in use for some time. 

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1 hour ago, ska4fun said:

 

I see some problems of standardization on the reel test material. He lacks it when comparing out of the box reels with one's already being in use for some time. 

I have noticed the same.  He's tested the 18 Bantam on several occasions.   The interior side plate needs regular oil for maximum performance.   Doubt he oiled it.  That alone could account for the 2 yards the 22 outperformed the 18.

 

 I think the point I'm making, don't give away your 18s in favor of a 22 if you don't want too.  There isn't much difference.    I was almost casting all the 50lb pp line off my 18 with a 3/8 chatterbait recently. 

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2 hours ago, Basswhippa said:

I have noticed the same.  He's tested the 18 Bantam on several occasions.   The interior side plate needs regular oil for maximum performance.   Doubt he oiled it.  That alone could account for the 2 yards the 22 outperformed the 18.

 

 I think the point I'm making, don't give away your 18s in favor of a 22 if you don't want too.  There isn't much difference.    I was almost casting all the 50lb pp line off my 18 with a 3/8 chatterbait recently. 

He does it with all daiwa reels, who were known for being sold dry, mainly the non-JDM ones.

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https://www.alanhawk.com/blog/19isu.html

 

Shimano must put a lawsuit against Allan Hawk!!!

 

He presented a cheap design flaw in the pricey Shimano Stella SW!!! But it's not a design flaw, but a new technology, called UXGW - ultra-x-gapped-wobbling bail arm! What a shame, Allan Hawk!!!

 

People did the same with micromodule I gearing! They were just as strong as grandpa teeth!

 

Dan Thornburn was mad because Allan Hawk wasn't a Payolla-***** like Cal TT.

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I have two Aldebaran 50 MG7, and one CORE 50 that I love.

All are pretty solid, and cast great. Fun to fish with.

 

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Top to bottom:

 

Baitrunner Plus 6500

Triton Sea Spin Bait Runner 4500 from mid to late '80s iirc. Note the graphite spool. Note that Bait Runner is two words on the side. 

And last but not least an MLZ10. Aluminum from the late '80s. "Colfor" spool. 104 yds of 6#. Spool diameter = 1.34"

 

And a Washington quarter, diameter = 0.955"

 

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Edited to add: The Bass Pro receipt for the 6500 Plus is still in the bottom of the box.

3/11/88.  $56.94 plus $6.10 shipping.

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2 hours ago, waymont said:

I have two Aldebaran 50 MG7, and one CORE 50 that I love.

All are pretty solid, and cast great. Fun to fish with.

 

Shimano older stuff is of superb quality.

 

I still remember the dual AR reels, with AR clutch and hammer...

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