Super User ChrisD46 Posted October 16, 2024 Super User Posted October 16, 2024 What bass lures have you also had success with while fishing for trout and Salmon ? I think a swim bait (3.5") would be good in the right colors and depth , certain crank baits , a chatter bait(mini-max) , possibly a finesse jig worm and strolling a Ned Rig (pink or chartreuse TRD) ... Your thoughts and experiences ? Maybe I'll learn something new I can do double duty with trout & salmon I already have for bass without buying new hard & soft lures. Quote
crypt Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 the first thing that comes to mind is a Mepps spinner........... 4 Quote
Super User J._Bricker Posted October 16, 2024 Super User Posted October 16, 2024 Wee Wart, Rebel Wee Crawfish immediately came to mind as far as crank baits, not sure of a Panther Martin 15 for bass. 1 Quote
Rockhopper Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 wiggle warts and inline spinners I caught a steelhead on a dobyn's spinnerbait once. 1 Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted October 16, 2024 Super User Posted October 16, 2024 Lots of big trout are caught on jerk baits. 5 Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 16, 2024 Super User Posted October 16, 2024 Inline spinners; Blue Fox, Panther Martin, Mepps are good. Yo-Zuri Pims minnow and original Rapala both Floater and CD’s. Spoons; Thomas Bouyant, Phebe and Little Cleo work good. Tom 4 Quote
Bass Rutten Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 Lake Michigan trout and salmon are routinely caught on spoons, rattle traps, and minnow/jerk baits. Quote
MassBass Posted October 16, 2024 Posted October 16, 2024 Minnow bait fished erratically has a good way of triggering trout when they are not aggressive towards spoons and spinners. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted October 16, 2024 Super User Posted October 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Jig Man said: Lots of big trout are caught on jerk baits. Here's a few jerkbait eating specimens ~ A-Jay 5 Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted October 16, 2024 BassResource.com Administrator Posted October 16, 2024 ^^ Yup ^^ I've caught my fair share of trout on jerkbaits. And plenty of salmon have hit my deep-diving crankbaits over the years. They seem to like Hotlips and Bomber A's the most, but not exclusively. 2 Quote
Pumpkin Lizard Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 A brown trout will literally hit anything a bass will go for. Jointed Rapalas in particular. They are super carnivorous. Almost nothing beats a silver Phoebe. It's a cheat code if you are gear fishing for trout. 1 Quote
Super User J._Bricker Posted October 17, 2024 Super User Posted October 17, 2024 Lure Jensen Speed Traps as well. Quote
Pumpkin Lizard Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 I bet a ned would slay. It looks almost exactly like a mop fly which is intended to imitate a crane fly larvae. Which gives me an idea. I bet a mop fly tied on a Ned jig would be tremendous for almost anything with fins. Quote
Super User king fisher Posted October 17, 2024 Super User Posted October 17, 2024 Magnum Wiggle Warts are arguably the best back trolling lure ever made for fishing in rivers for King Salmon. Standard size Wiggle Warts are great for steelhead. I have no idea why, but the pre Rapala Warts are best. 1 Quote
Rockhopper Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 42 minutes ago, king fisher said: Magnum Wiggle Warts are arguably the best back trolling lure ever made for fishing in rivers for King Salmon. Standard size Wiggle Warts are great for steelhead. I have no idea why, but the pre Rapala Warts are best. The 6th sense curve 55 works well now too. Much like a wiggle wart. 1 Quote
redmeansdistortion Posted October 17, 2024 Posted October 17, 2024 22 hours ago, Jig Man said: Lots of big trout are caught on jerk baits. My preferred bait for trout. There is actually science behind this too. Smaller trout tend to go more for insect imitations like a dressed spinner, fly, etc. They aren't big enough to have fish as a large portion of their diet so they go for easier prey. Bigger browns and rainbows have much more fish in their diets and respond well to jerkbaits and streamers. Even in the case of browns, top water baits you'd use for bass work great since they feed on terrestrial mammals and amphibians that fall into the water. Night time brown fishing with a jitterbug is a lot of fun. They absolutely smash them. 2 Quote
MediumMouthBass Posted October 18, 2024 Posted October 18, 2024 Spinners/spoons. Smaller crankbaits and jerkbaits. But bigger trout like Browns will and have hit full sized ones. Berkley Powerbait micetails. Have caught tons of bass and trout on them. On 10/16/2024 at 11:38 AM, ChrisD46 said: Ned Rig These are often overlooked, they work quite well for trout. Years ago at the Salmon River i was going to try some pink TRD's but didnt get to try since the river wasnt good that weekend. If you are fishing near brown trout, and pretty much brown trout only for that species, but are near bass try some big mouse flies. They can be casted with anything just use a weighted bobber. 1 Quote
softwateronly Posted October 20, 2024 Posted October 20, 2024 I caught a large King (chinook) shaking a 4" jighead minnow yesterday morning. In the past, rattle traps, jerk baits, and dragging drop shot worms have gotten me steelhead and browns. These have all been great lakes salmon. scott Quote
Pumpkin Lizard Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 On 10/17/2024 at 1:31 PM, redmeansdistortion said: My preferred bait for trout. There is actually science behind this too. Smaller trout tend to go more for insect imitations like a dressed spinner, fly, etc. They aren't big enough to have fish as a large portion of their diet so they go for easier prey. Bigger browns and rainbows have much more fish in their diets and respond well to jerkbaits and streamers. Even in the case of browns, top water baits you'd use for bass work great since they feed on terrestrial mammals and amphibians that fall into the water. Night time brown fishing with a jitterbug is a lot of fun. They absolutely smash them. This is true. Once browns get to 13-14 inches they start needing food like crawdads and things with a spinal cord. The streamers I use for big trout are big swimbait size. Almost always articulated. I think they work better than conventional tackle too. On 10/17/2024 at 7:04 PM, MediumMouthBass said: Spinners/spoons. Smaller crankbaits and jerkbaits. But bigger trout like Browns will and have hit full sized ones. Berkley Powerbait micetails. Have caught tons of bass and trout on them. These are often overlooked, they work quite well for trout. Years ago at the Salmon River i was going to try some pink TRD's but didnt get to try since the river wasnt good that weekend. If you are fishing near brown trout, and pretty much brown trout only for that species, but are near bass try some big mouse flies. They can be casted with anything just use a weighted bobber. Honestly I wonder if a frog would do the trick and then you don't need the bobber. When I lived in Wisconsin I knew a guy who fished the same spring creek region as me and he kept a fish every now and then to in part to see what they were eating. He usually kept 13-14 inchers and he almost always found mouse remains in the stomach. In nearby Iowa we could fish 12 months a year and the trout he caught would have mouse even in the dead of winter. It's not just a novelty. There is a fairly famous creek in Iowa loaded with wild browns that I fly fished all winter. The browns would stack up under the bridge in winter and I watched a 14-15 incher eating another fish, likely a trout that was easily 9 inches. It was almost like watching a snake eat something big. Quote
redmeansdistortion Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 10 hours ago, Pumpkinseed Lizard said: This is true. Once browns get to 13-14 inches they start needing food like crawdads and things with a spinal cord. The streamers I use for big trout are big swimbait size. Almost always articulated. I think they work better than conventional tackle too. Honestly I wonder if a frog would do the trick and then you don't need the bobber. When I lived in Wisconsin I knew a guy who fished the same spring creek region as me and he kept a fish every now and then to in part to see what they were eating. He usually kept 13-14 inchers and he almost always found mouse remains in the stomach. In nearby Iowa we could fish 12 months a year and the trout he caught would have mouse even in the dead of winter. It's not just a novelty. There is a fairly famous creek in Iowa loaded with wild browns that I fly fished all winter. The browns would stack up under the bridge in winter and I watched a 14-15 incher eating another fish, likely a trout that was easily 9 inches. It was almost like watching a snake eat something big. Read up on mousing at night for browns. I'm not sure how popular outside of Michigan it is, but a lot of guys here do it. They fish a deer hair mouse tied with a #2 hook with a heavy leader, usually 10lb+. I don't fly fish, but if I did I'd definitely be doing it. https://mangledfly.com/night-fishing/ Quote
Pumpkin Lizard Posted October 22, 2024 Posted October 22, 2024 1 hour ago, redmeansdistortion said: Read up on mousing at night for browns. I'm not sure how popular outside of Michigan it is, but a lot of guys here do it. They fish a deer hair mouse tied with a #2 hook with a heavy leader, usually 10lb+. I don't fly fish, but if I did I'd definitely be doing it. https://mangledfly.com/night-fishing/ It's fairly popular outside of Michigan. The reason for the heavy leader isn't just for the strikes and the chance at a bigger fish. It's really hard to turn over a big air resistant fly on a fine diameter tippet. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted October 23, 2024 Global Moderator Posted October 23, 2024 On 10/22/2024 at 7:15 AM, redmeansdistortion said: Read up on mousing at night for browns. I'm not sure how popular outside of Michigan it is, but a lot of guys here do it. They fish a deer hair mouse tied with a #2 hook with a heavy leader, usually 10lb+. I don't fly fish, but if I did I'd definitely be doing it. https://mangledfly.com/night-fishing/ Fly fishing at night sounds fun until you try it haha Quote
redmeansdistortion Posted October 25, 2024 Posted October 25, 2024 On 10/23/2024 at 7:51 AM, TnRiver46 said: Fly fishing at night sounds fun until you try it haha My best advice; first and foremost, be familiar with the water you're fishing. The streams I night fish for browns are very wader friendly with most holes being less than 4ft deep. I've been fishing those streams a long time in general and know that I won't take a dip, barring a previous heavy rain. Second, use a wading staff. This lets you prod the bottom as you move so you can get a feel of the underlying topography. Nighttime or not, it's a good tool to have for wading in general. Lastly, wear a red headlamp. Red light doesn't spook trout nearly as easy as something closer to the yellow, white, or blue spectrum. Being equipped with the knowledge and the right tools, you may be rewarded with a nice fish and make it back to land dry. 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted October 25, 2024 Global Moderator Posted October 25, 2024 Night fishing is forbidden in the smoky mtn national park so I’ve never tried wading for Browns but we do have some Tailwaters you can boat at night. And you have the river completely to yourself without a doubt because nobody else is crazy enough to try it 😂. We’ve hit some rocks 1 Quote
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