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Would it be a waste to have 2 same rods, different ratio reels??

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I already have a 6'6" MH/F Shimano Compre rod with a 6.4:1 ratio reel I use for spinnerbaits, buzzbaits, jigs and worming. This is a great feeling all around rod for any of these tasks, does them all quite well.

I also have a brand new 7.1:1 reel here that I need a rod for, and am thinking about getting another 6'6" MH Compre for it.

I was thinking I'd use the 7.1:1 reel for jigs and worms, having the faster ratio for quick line take up, and also occasionally burning spinnerbaits and buzzbaits if I want to. I see this rod setup as ideal for worms and jigs, but I see the 6.4:1 more ideal for spinnerbaits and buzzers and would be "fast enough" for worms and jigs otherwise.

It would be nice, though unnecessary, to have a spinnerbait tied on one, and a jig on the other (the perfect world).  But I'd have $150 in one extra combo just to keep from retying between lures.

Only difference between these two reels is 28" IPT vs. 31" IPT. I'm thinking since they are so close I may as well just resell the 7.1:1 instead of using it at all. I bought it on a whim since it was on sale last spring but it's been in the box for 9 months now, never used.

Of course I've considered other uses for it also, such as on a 7'+ frog rod but I don't really have a need for that on the lakes I fish. There's no real slop here. So I seem to have a reel that I love but don't need, or can use but it needs another rod which would cost money I could use for other fishing related stuff instead. 

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Do you fish from shore?

Me personally I would team up the fast reel with a 7ft rod.

I think a 7ft MH rod is good for just about everything.

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I fish from shore occasionally, but mostly from a boat. 

I've thought about 7' rods a hundred times but they seem too long for me to use comfortably.  That's all my brother in law uses though, but when I hold one of his it seems overly long and in my way as I fish, the tip hits everything, limbs, boat equipment, then it's in the water as I hold the rod down and crank.

I love the 6'6" lengths, and even the 6' lengths for just general use such as with small crankbaits.  I have a 6 foot rod I can't seem to get rid of cause I love it so well and all I use it for are 1/4 oz. crankbaits and spinnerbaits, 90% cranks though.  That 6' rod is the one I am holding in my avatar that I threw that 1/4 oz. crankbait with and caught that fish on.  I know it's not the largest fish ever but it is my biggest largemouth bass and it was a load of fun on that rod.

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I have two G Loomis SMR814-CB rods (one has a Daiwa Fuego with mono for Topwater lures and the other has a Shimano Core 50Mg with Fluoro for jerkbaits).  I don't thinks it's bad at all to have the same rod with two different reels.  If you want to differentiate a little more, put fluoro or braid on one and mono on the other.

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Buy the rod. 8-) You already have the reel. Save your nickles or talk Santa into buying it. A dedicated worm/jig rod is a wonderful thing. :) Enjoy.

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Someone said put different line on one also.  I thought about that.  Use hybrid on one for spinnerbaits and whatever else I use, then use braid on one for jigs and worms for low stretch and sensitivity as well as fishing deep water and still getting good hooksets.  I may just do that.  I really wanted to anyway, but couldn't justify the extra $100 for the rod when I already had one that will do the same job.  The other one will only do that job just a little better is all.  It's more for convenience of not having to cut and retie all the time I think.  Maybe I'll spoil myself some and get it anyway.

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I'm a bankbeater, and use a kayak, so having a bunch of rods is more of an inconveience. I bring two with me. 1 spinning and 1 7' MH for baitcast. You, on the other hand have a boat. So go get it you will be happy with it. And the Compre is a great rod for the money, I use a 6'6" MXF Compre for my spinning rod.

Good Luck!

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all my rods are 6-6 mh johnny morris signature series except my 7-6 flipping stick.this means i always know what to expect and never have to adjust to different rod lenths or feel.the reels are different ratos.if i could afford it they would all be either pflueger supreme 9035 xt spinning reels or pflueger patriarch casting reels in either 6.4 to 1 or 7.1 to 1.we way overcomplicate things when we fish.

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we way overcomplicate things when we fish.

This is so true it deserves a thread of its own!!!!!

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Nah.

I have the following:

Powell 704C - Pflueger Patriarch 6.4:1 - 15lb. P-line Fluoroclear.

Powell 704C - Pflueger Patriarch 6.4:1 - 15lb. P-Line Fluoroclear.

I use these combos for almost everything except cranking and they serve my needs really well.

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I have a pair of 6'6" All Star Titaniums that are my bread and butter soft plastic/jig rods.  Patriarchs mounted on them and I might add a third as a Spinnerbait rod selling a IM10X All Star I have. 

The action and feel of that particular rod, the AST 786 is so comfortable I just love using the rod.  If the rod works well for you getting a second wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Not at all. I have as many as 6 of the same blanks with different rigs on them.

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Personally I hate having to retie every time I want to switch baits.  You don't have to have technique specific set-ups but I think it helps having a T-rig, crankbait, jig, spinnerbait, and a spinning rod, usually a shaky head, rigged up for use when needed without the hassle of cutting off and retying everytime.  In short, no, it's not a waste.  What is a waste is having a perfectly good reel closed up in a box for 9 months.

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Well, one reason it was in the box for so long was that I was very busy this year and was not able to fish more than 15 times total. Not sure if it was that many even. So I never got a rod for it. I spent most of the year gutting and remodeling a house for my parents, changed jobs twice, and also became a grandpappy at age 35 (stepdaughter 22 had a little one), so there was a lot going on here. Didn't have too much time to fish. But next year......IT'S ON!!!

You guys talked me into it, and I must say it was not hard cause I really wanted another rod. ;D I'm gonna get another Shimano Compre MH/F rod for that 7.1:1 reel and make it my jig/worm rod with use as a spinnerbait/buzzbait burning rod as well. I'll probably even use it to burn lipless cranks also, even though it's a MH and NOT a crankbait rod. I like multi-use rods in my arsenal.

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Since you already have the 6'6" MH/F Compre for spinnerbaits and jigs, I'd pick up a 6'6" M/XF Compre (CPCX66MB) to use for worming.

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I keep things real simple, 1 rod when I fish.  I have never had a problem just adjusting my retrieval speed when fishing, in fact it's my preferred way to fish.  That being said I pay absolutely zero attention to ratio or ipt.

In my experience I think I catch more fish with a slower retrieve.

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There is a little more to having multiple rods ready to go. There are times when you miss a strike with a moving bait and want to throw right back to the same spot with a worm or jig. Unless you are anchored in one spot as you move along different structure may call for different presentations.

Another issue is dialing in the brakes on the reel for the bait tied on. And speaking of professional overruns, ever target a spot that looks great but you get one right before you reach it? Just pick up another rig and hit that spot. Then work on your bird's nest.

To go back to the original question, it won't be a waste to have two rods that are the same.  Use what you like.

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just curious tim, what rod are you using four times?

For pond fishing, I have 4 Daiwa procyons. 7' med/mod. 1 for traps and spinners, 1 for senkos, 1 for small 4" tx rigged plastics, 1 for small c rigged plastics.

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Since you already have the 6'6" MH/F Compre for spinnerbaits and jigs, I'd pick up a 6'6" M/XF Compre (CPCX66MB) to use for worming.

id also suggest an xf for your soft plastic rod.

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Since you already have the 6'6" MH/F Compre for spinnerbaits and jigs, I'd pick up a 6'6" M/XF Compre (CPCX66MB) to use for worming.

id also suggest an xf for your soft plastic rod.

Why XF tip instead of just fast for plastics??  In using the MH/F rod I have for plastics I've so far loved it's feeling it provides as well as casting ability.

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Bear in mind each manufacturer has their own idea of what MF is.  One's XF might be another's MF.  Same goes with heavy, MH, etc.

So....your MF might be the same as somebody else's XF.

Ya, I know, it'd be great if they all standardized, but they don't.

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Well the ones I am using are the Shimano Compre MH with F tip.  I've thought about the XF tip thinking it would be just a little stiffer feeling overall and might improve sensitivity even further, but I also thought it would cut down on the loading ability of the rod under the same weight bait as well so I didn't want to do that since it would make it harder to get the same distance on the cast. 

Also I saw where someone specifically suggested to use a medium Compre rod for my worming instead of a MH rod.  Specifically the CPCX66MB, which is a M rod with XF tip.  Why do you think I should use a M instead of a MH here??  I'm curious. 

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