Got a pond that i just started fishing,  maybe 7 acres.   No boat right now so im fishing from shore,  been doing ok with the largemouth though nothing too big.  A few of the guys there say they catch more smallies than largemouth.  ive not caught one and usually where there is smallies - even though i fish for largemouth i tend to get a few.  Been using spiiner spaits, jerkbaits, jignpig,  rubberworm,  tubes, senk....nuthin.  Its pretty much 7-8 ' deep the whole pond.  Always dirty\muddy.   Not really any cover to fish that is accessible from the shorelines.  I wont enjoy using livebait so got any ideas.   thanks!

Fat Ika for both green and brown bass.

thanks roadwarrior, i'll give it a try. I never tried these but arent they just a solid tube? what would make these effective that a tube cant do?

The action is completely different and the profile is significantly altered when rigged skirt up or tentacles forward. Maybe this thread will explain it in a little more detail:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1141053342

Here is another specifically on rigging and presentation:

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1187047441

dang!   thanks for all the help!