I've used the toad thumper. Nice soft body. Pretty easy to walk. I'm a terrible frog fishermen. Last year, fished it on 30# Sunline Xplasma with an ALX Enox BMJ. Sparse to moderate grass/lily pad areas. Gets smashed, but couldn't hookup....... that's on me. I don't prematurely swing, usually reacting maybe too late, along drag slightly too lose on some occasions. I forget if I experimented with bending the hooks out to any degree or not. This year, will be trying a Kaden 715 and Champ 763....aiming for a slightly slower tip with more backbone, if that's possible.