Minnow sorry if you were offened by my post.i was simply responding with my own opinion on the matter.

but as far as shimano products i read many good quotes about there product thats why i purchased one

for my own use.yes i admitt i was disapointed with it.again i am sorry if i affended you or any one else.

Hollisray, thank you for clarifying your first post. It seemed to me you were just trying to "stir the pot" and get the discussion going in a negative direction. I love to grass fish so I just wanted to see what all the guys here used for their grass fishing needs, not recommendations as I've already settled on plenty of grass gear. Again thank you for your second post and I'm sorry I misunderstood and read negatively into your first one.   

KevO, I absolutely HATE carolina rig fishing so I won't be needing it for that but the spoon idea sounds promising. Thanks for the additional info.

that is fine now lets go catch some BASS .

KevO, I absolutely HATE carolina rig fishing so I won't be needing it for that but the spoon idea sounds promising. Thanks for the additional info.

I was not a fan either but once you learn to do it right, you will catch a lot of big fish.