i am looking to make a custom jig mold for a poisontail type jig. my question is what style of hook to use? if someone could link me to a place to buy a 3/0 hook for this?

Are you still wanting to use the 28 degree bend hook like the poison tail??? If so stamina or barlows has both the EWG hooks and standard gap hooks available. If you are wanting to use a different bend these are both good places to start looking for hooks

www.staminainc.com   - Stamina

www.barlowstackle.com  - Barlows

IMO stay away from Stamina though...slow shipping and always out of stock on at least one item you need.

Hope this helps

Harshman

yes i want the same hook bend as a pioson tail jig. thanks for the quick response.

another question, i want to make my own mold for this jig is there a good material for making a soft mold that i can do before i have a machinist make the metal one? i was thinking some kind of wax or plastic that was stiff but i could still mold it with my hands

WWW.POLYTEK.COM Will get you silicone to make a mold. Or, George at Custom jigs and spin in NY will make a silicone mold for 35 bucks.

i am very new to this...

with silicon can i pour the jigs? if i can how long would one mold last? also back to the hook... are there any good wide gap hooks like this- do-itmolds.com/prodhooks.aspx?c=113 but with a 60 degree bend instead? another question... what is better to hold soft plastics on, a screw lock or something like on a spot remover

also would it be simple to pour something with that bolt thing on the spot remover? or would i be better of using the screw lock?

Screw loc is the way to go aand yes there are alot of quality hooks in a 60 degree and a lot wider selection in that bend then there are in the 28 degree bends hooks.

I've never heard of a silicone mold for pouring lead...how do they last with the heat??? All of mine are either do-it molds or ones I have had cnc'd

Harshman

ya im not sure if silicon would work to pour the jig... but i can't find any wide gap hooks except one with a 28 degree bend

Silicone works well and lasts up to 1000-3000 pours per cavity. Taht should be plenty for any personal use. For 35 bucks it is worth a shot (no?). Beats the $150.00+ for a CNC'd mold.

The silicone is specail heat resistant with a built in release agent.

Please contact Polytek and ask them questions if you do not beilieve. CAll and tell them the use. They will tell you the tinsel 60-70 is what you need , I think (its been a while)

Silicone will surely work, it's what the spincast guys use a lot of.

If you do not want to go the curly spring route, you can opt to use a painted bard like the Giggy head, which, IMO, works as well, and the cost is low per head. You have to remember to hold the heat source close to the head when powder painting them, I ruined many of mine out of my Giggy mold not paying attention!

Be sure you think your design out properly with the 28* hook, I do not think it would stand up straight, or much at all, but have not tried it!

thanks for the help! i think ill give silicon a try... but how would i give them my design? and with the 28 degree hook im pretty sure it won't stand up... but its the only one i could find with a widegap hook (witch i need), any help? if i can't find one i will make it more of a swimming jig... i would rather have the 90 tho

I have a sample of a 90 or 60 widegap Mustad in the shop, I'll go look up the number tomorrow.

What do you mean get them the design? You are going to have to give the moldmaker of a silicone mold a sample per cavity. A CNC machine guy will be able to draw you one out, or you can submit them a drawing.

Is there a similar design as to what you want? Might be easier to have the mold modified to fit the new hook, although, once again, that's gonna pose problems to the silicone guy.

If you can carve something out of wood, or possible hard clay, you may can make a mold that way. You would have to make the prototype, mold it, then pour it, then make a production mold from the pours.

The guy out east will need an actual unit you want to copy. Once created, you can alter the mold with an exacto knife or dremel very easily.

With buying the silicone direct from Polytek, you will need to create your own mold which is kind of fun. Again, you will need an actual unit you want to copy and alter the mold from there.

understand that this really isnt as easy as you may think it is. I spent about 6 months trying to perfect what I want. As you taste changes, you will want to create more molds.

After all the trial...I find it easier to use mass produced jigs or find a small tackle guy taht will pour somthing close to what you are looking for.

Ebby,

There is a guy in LaCrosse, WI that makes a PT jig with a grub keeper.  You do not want the screw locks with a wide gap hook.your trailers will bunch up and not run straight. The keeper the guy has is a single L-bend that works awesome. Before you go further on trying to create molds and such, Please email this guy to see if he has what you need.  I will post a pic a little later.

His name is Brad Whitacre. his email is whitacrebrad at yahoo *

ya i figured it would take a while i was hoping to get the mold as soon as i can so i can get some use out of it once the ice thaws. and if you can post a pick that would help alot.

please excuse the fuzziness.

swim jig barb--on the downside

pic of 1/8 oz PT jig

pic of swim jig

thanks millerman those look like nice jigs ill have to look into it