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Anyone have this rod? I bought it as a jig rod, and I’m starting to realize that it’s tip heavy compared to my Fury and Tatula. Anyone else notice this? It’s a well built rod and is sensitive and strong, but tip heavy is not good for a jig rod.

Meh, maybe a little more tip heavy than the Tatula rods, but not enough that I would have second thoughts.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, LionHeart said:

Meh, maybe a little more tip heavy than the Tatula rods, but not enough that I would have second thoughts.

 

 

I notice a significant difference with the same exact reel on. Maybe I got a bad one I don’t know. Since I got your attention, do you have any Tatula or Tatula elite HF 7’1 Rods? I have a new Tatula 7’1 MH for my t rig rod and was thinking about getting a HF for jigs.

Interesting.  I have never fished the Promise 73, but have handled one many times and would love to own one.  I currently use a custom ALX Zolo Dragger as a Jig,  Frog, and Trig rod and love it.  I also have a custom ALX Zolo Deputy for an all around 3/16-3/8 Trig rod, which I really enjoy.  

 

I have owned 3 Diawa Tatula rods, an original 7'2" MH fast Regular which I use for Trigs and an original 7'2" Heavy/ Fast for jigs.  I also owned new Tatula 7'6" MH/Fast which I planned to use for Trigs.  I'll share my thoughts on all of them.  This may be kinda lengthy.

 

The original Tatula 7'2" was such an excellent rod.  Very light, balanced, and sensitive.  Excellent guides, and even taught me not to mind EVA handles.  I always felt that the handle was a tad short, and never could learn to like the reel seat.  After a couple of hours, it could get a little uncomfortable to hold.  I actually got a quote from a rod builder to see if he could change the reel seat, and move it forward an inch to give me a longer handle.  In the end, getting a different rod made more sense.  Such a good rod though.  I miss it.

 

The original 7'2" Heavy/Fast had the same handle and reel seat as above, so I had the same dislikes.  This rod in my experience was not as sensitive as the MH.  It made an excellent pitching and frog rod,  but for dragging a bait, it just didn't have the feel I was looking for.  Another thing is that it was a bit too stout for what I wanted.  Great for frog fishing, but too stout for what I like in a 1/2 oz and below jig rod.  I would still recommend both of these rods,  as they are stellar, they just weren't right for me.  If balance is a huge factor, they are both winners big time.

 

The new Tatula 7'6" MH/Fast.  I really like the slightly longer full cork handle, and this rod seemed to be every bit as sensitive as the original 7'2".  Reel seat is improved, so we were off to a great start.  The only 2 reasons I don't still own it are that the guides are a bit small for me.  I use braid to leader, and while the guides do pass an FG knot just fine, there is a certain amount of knot 'tic' that I can't handle.  This rod had it.  It didn't affect casting or fishability but it bothered me.  

 

The second thing that I noticed was when ever I set the hook on a fish (or a log, or a rock) I would notice flexing in the point where the cork handle meets the reel seat.  Maybe I am the only one to experience this, and no other rods are doing it, but it kinda bothered me a lot.  

 

The ALX rods:  I've been using the Dragger and Deputy quite a bit now and honestly my only gripes would be that yes, they are noticeably more tip heavy than the Tatula rods, but only something I would notice if I literally do a side by side comparison.  The other is that the jury is still out on sensitivity.  There are times while dragging baits that I think "yep, I wish they were a bit more sensitive," and other times that I'm fishing a hard bottom and think "Okay, I'm crazy, this thing is very sensitive."

 

On the tip heavy part, yes they are more tip heavy than some rods I still own, but less so than others.  Perfect rod balance was something that never really kept me up at night.  As long as a rod isn't tip heavy to the point of being laborious, it doesn't really bother me.  I definitely wouldn't put them in the 'tip heavy' category.

 

Hope this was helpful man.

 

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1 hour ago, LionHeart said:

Interesting.  I have never fished the Promise 73, but have handled one many times and would love to own one.  I currently use a custom ALX Zolo Dragger as a Jig,  Frog, and Trig rod and love it.  I also have a custom ALX Zolo Deputy for an all around 3/16-3/8 Trig rod, which I really enjoy.  

 

I have owned 3 Diawa Tatula rods, an original 7'2" MH fast Regular which I use for Trigs and an original 7'2" Heavy/ Fast for jigs.  I also owned new Tatula 7'6" MH/Fast which I planned to use for Trigs.  I'll share my thoughts on all of them.  This may be kinda lengthy.

 

The original Tatula 7'2" was such an excellent rod.  Very light, balanced, and sensitive.  Excellent guides, and even taught me not to mind EVA handles.  I always felt that the handle was a tad short, and never could learn to like the reel seat.  After a couple of hours, it could get a little uncomfortable to hold.  I actually got a quote from a rod builder to see if he could change the reel seat, and move it forward an inch to give me a longer handle.  In the end, getting a different rod made more sense.  Such a good rod though.  I miss it.

 

The original 7'2" Heavy/Fast had the same handle and reel seat as above, so I had the same dislikes.  This rod in my experience was not as sensitive as the MH.  It made an excellent pitching and frog rod,  but for dragging a bait, it just didn't have the feel I was looking for.  Another thing is that it was a bit too stout for what I wanted.  Great for frog fishing, but too stout for what I like in a 1/2 oz and below jig rod.  I would still recommend both of these rods,  as they are stellar, they just weren't right for me.  If balance is a huge factor, they are both winners big time.

 

The new Tatula 7'6" MH/Fast.  I really like the slightly longer full cork handle, and this rod seemed to be every bit as sensitive as the original 7'2".  Reel seat is improved, so we were off to a great start.  The only 2 reasons I don't still own it are that the guides are a bit small for me.  I use braid to leader, and while the guides do pass an FG knot just fine, there is a certain amount of knot 'tic' that I can't handle.  This rod had it.  It didn't affect casting or fishability but it bothered me.  

 

The second thing that I noticed was when ever I set the hook on a fish (or a log, or a rock) I would notice flexing in the point where the cork handle meets the reel seat.  Maybe I am the only one to experience this, and no other rods are doing it, but it kinda bothered me a lot.  

 

The ALX rods:  I've been using the Dragger and Deputy quite a bit now and honestly my only gripes would be that yes, they are noticeably more tip heavy than the Tatula rods, but only something I would notice if I literally do a side by side comparison.  The other is that the jury is still out on sensitivity.  There are times while dragging baits that I think "yep, I wish they were a bit more sensitive," and other times that I'm fishing a hard bottom and think "Okay, I'm crazy, this thing is very sensitive."

 

On the tip heavy part, yes they are more tip heavy than some rods I still own, but less so than others.  Perfect rod balance was something that never really kept me up at night.  As long as a rod isn't tip heavy to the point of being laborious, it doesn't really bother me.  I definitely wouldn't put them in the 'tip heavy' category.

 

Hope this was helpful man.

 

Thanks for the insight.....yea like I said, great rod just don’t love the balance for jig fishing. Have you heard anything about the Tatula elite rods?

1 hour ago, LionHeart said:

Interesting.  I have never fished the Promise 73, but have handled one many times and would love to own one.  I currently use a custom ALX Zolo Dragger as a Jig,  Frog, and Trig rod and love it.  I also have a custom ALX Zolo Deputy for an all around 3/16-3/8 Trig rod, which I really enjoy.  

 

I have owned 3 Diawa Tatula rods, an original 7'2" MH fast Regular which I use for Trigs and an original 7'2" Heavy/ Fast for jigs.  I also owned new Tatula 7'6" MH/Fast which I planned to use for Trigs.  I'll share my thoughts on all of them.  This may be kinda lengthy.

 

The original Tatula 7'2" was such an excellent rod.  Very light, balanced, and sensitive.  Excellent guides, and even taught me not to mind EVA handles.  I always felt that the handle was a tad short, and never could learn to like the reel seat.  After a couple of hours, it could get a little uncomfortable to hold.  I actually got a quote from a rod builder to see if he could change the reel seat, and move it forward an inch to give me a longer handle.  In the end, getting a different rod made more sense.  Such a good rod though.  I miss it.

 

The original 7'2" Heavy/Fast had the same handle and reel seat as above, so I had the same dislikes.  This rod in my experience was not as sensitive as the MH.  It made an excellent pitching and frog rod,  but for dragging a bait, it just didn't have the feel I was looking for.  Another thing is that it was a bit too stout for what I wanted.  Great for frog fishing, but too stout for what I like in a 1/2 oz and below jig rod.  I would still recommend both of these rods,  as they are stellar, they just weren't right for me.  If balance is a huge factor, they are both winners big time.

 

The new Tatula 7'6" MH/Fast.  I really like the slightly longer full cork handle, and this rod seemed to be every bit as sensitive as the original 7'2".  Reel seat is improved, so we were off to a great start.  The only 2 reasons I don't still own it are that the guides are a bit small for me.  I use braid to leader, and while the guides do pass an FG knot just fine, there is a certain amount of knot 'tic' that I can't handle.  This rod had it.  It didn't affect casting or fishability but it bothered me.  

 

The second thing that I noticed was when ever I set the hook on a fish (or a log, or a rock) I would notice flexing in the point where the cork handle meets the reel seat.  Maybe I am the only one to experience this, and no other rods are doing it, but it kinda bothered me a lot.  

 

The ALX rods:  I've been using the Dragger and Deputy quite a bit now and honestly my only gripes would be that yes, they are noticeably more tip heavy than the Tatula rods, but only something I would notice if I literally do a side by side comparison.  The other is that the jury is still out on sensitivity.  There are times while dragging baits that I think "yep, I wish they were a bit more sensitive," and other times that I'm fishing a hard bottom and think "Okay, I'm crazy, this thing is very sensitive."

 

On the tip heavy part, yes they are more tip heavy than some rods I still own, but less so than others.  Perfect rod balance was something that never really kept me up at night.  As long as a rod isn't tip heavy to the point of being laborious, it doesn't really bother me.  I definitely wouldn't put them in the 'tip heavy' category.

 

Hope this was helpful man.

 

I’ve asked myself the same question when throwing my ALX dragger! I’ll be dragging along the bottom feeling some rock every now but thinking I should feel a little bit more. Then a fish picks up my bait and I’m like “holy crap this thing is sensitive!” It’s hard for me to explain, but it just has a different feel to it. It seems to transmit strikes very well.

 

It is slightly more tip heavy than other offerings, but not enough to the point that you notice it while fishing. Very comfortable and crisp rod to fish. I love the few I have.

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