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Just a simple question and I would like to get a specialist to answer:

Why do bass' lips and fins turn red in the livewell? I've only noticed this in the warmer months. I use a lot of ice, I put my livewell on auto (which means I'm pumping in new water), I use Please Release Me, I leave my aireators on manual (which mean they run nonstop). Is the red lips a sign of anything bad. I have only lost 2 fish in 4 years which was due to a faulty livewell drain. I can't say for sure what my survival rate is beens I don't know what happens to them after the weigh-in. I was unhappy to notice FLW had very warm water in the holding tanks at my BFL and I saw a dozen or so dead fish in their holding tanks on the release boat. I wonder if that is Rejuvinade in their tanks?

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CJ, Warm livewell temperatures will cause fins to turn red, as will

ammonia problems. In your case, it is definately livewell temps.

Do NOT pump in freshwater during the warm summer months. This

totally defeats the purpose of ice and livewell chemicals. You need

to close off your system and aerate. Since your are in KY, I would

assume that you catch a fair amount of smallmouth bass. They require

cooler water temps and more oxygen. Go buy yourself a floating pool

thermometer at Home Depot to monitor livewell temps. Keep livewell

temps as close to 65F as possible, and don't let them exceed 70F. You

will be amazed at how much ice it takes to maintain proper livewell temps, and you might want to consider using a cooler or ice chest.

If you are using Please Release Me you will need to exchange the water every two to three hours. Precool your water in a bucket or

spare livewell. Don't pump in hot surface water into the livewell.

Our newer formula Catch And Release contains a concentrated amount

of ammonia remover, so water does not need to be exchanged but once, if even at all.  That depends on the amount of fish in the

livewell.

Of course we do highly recommend the use of 3% hydrogen peroxide

in the summer time as well. It's use could have saved your

fish that died due to the, "faulty livewell drain." It's use is controversial with some scientists, but most tournament anglers are quite capable of following safe dosage instructions. You will need to measure the approximate volume of water in your livewell for proper dosing. The safe dosage rates are on our website, DO NOT overdose!

Our website contains some good information on warm weather livewell care of bass, including how to determine the approximate

volume of water in your livewell. That information can also be found

on both the Please Release Me and Catch And Release labels.

Last but not least, we suggest that you double the recommended dosage rate of Please Release Me or Catch And Release during the

warm summer months.

The answer to your last question is, YES!

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Lane, I appreciate your advice. I'll take it and use it.

Of course we do highly recommend the use of 3% hydrogen peroxide

in the summer time as well. It's use could have saved your

fish that died due to the, "faulty livewell drain."

I hope I'm not reading this right but it sounds like you are calling me a liar. On my old boat, the port side livewell switch would dump it's water when turned on to auto. Hydrogen peroxide won't help when there is no water. It was when I first got the boat and was unaware of it. It killed 2 fish.

Again, thank you.

Chris Jones

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CJ, "Faulty livewell drain", I was assuming that it failed to properly drain causing metabolic waste to build up in the livewell water. That

is a common problem. Didn't realize you were talking about water completely draining out of the livewell. Thank god it was only two fish,

could have been worst!

As for the red fins and lips, it is not good. In fact abnormal color changes are a sure sign that things aren't good, with loss of coloration

being a sign of deep shock and impending death.

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Thanks for clearing that up Lane. I'm sorry I misunderstood. I'm just trying to make sure I'm doing my part with the fish's well being. I noticed the smaller fish I caught yesturday got a case of the red lips. I should have recirculated the same water. It was the first time I didn't this time of year because I had read about the ammonia build up. I use 4-6 blocks of ice during a tournament this time of year. I guess by pumping in the new water , I just kept adding warm water. I have both of ya'lls products. I think when I need to recirculate the same water I will use the C&R formula.

Chris

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CJ, I would recommend using Catch And Release this time of year.

Once it starts to cool off and the water temps drop, you can switch back to Please Release Me at the normal dosage rate. Post spawn and

summer are tough on these bass. The thermometer will really help!

We have been talking to two boat manufacturers about installing livewell temperature probes as standard equipment. That would really

help. Thanks for your concern and taking the time to ask questions,

and even more importantly your efforts to conserve the resource!

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Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome thread!  Tons of great info.  Alot of fish will stay alive because of this.

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