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[salmicropterus]

PS- course none of this explains why when I was fishing 150 yds from Brandon, he's catching 6s and I'm catching 3s LOL. At least I knew I was in a good spot

[gar-tracker]

I would guess he was flipping or hitting key spots that he might have been aware of.

There's always a pattern within a pattern, hence the reason I get a kick out of "Information", to me its useless, if you don't know what little idiosyncrasy ones doing then being near fish that someone told you about is almost useless, unless they went on to tell you this as well, but to my experience somethings always left out.

[FishinDaddy]

150 yds might as well be five miles. I find that if you look at 1000 yds of shore line, there will be a spot 10 yds wide that will produce more fish than the other 990. I use the search bait to find the fish, then hit it hard with a worm, and finally pitch a bug at every thing that looks good. Most of the time I catch 2 or 3 without moving the boat. Last January, the wife and I caught 25 2-3 lbers out of a little pocket in the Kissimee grass that was not 10 yards wide.

[South FLA]

150 yds might as well be five miles. I find that if you look at 1000 yds of shore line, there will be a spot 10 yds wide that will produce more fish than the other 990. I use the search bait to find the fish, then hit it hard with a worm, and finally pitch a bug at every thing that looks good. Most of the time I catch 2 or 3 without moving the boat. Last January, the wife and I caught 25 2-3 lbers out of a little pocket in the Kissimee grass that was not 10 yards wide.

I would guess he was flipping or hitting key spots that he might have been aware of.

There's always a pattern within a pattern, hence the reason I get a kick out of "Information", to me its useless, if you don't know what little idiosyncrasy ones doing then being near fish that someone told you about is almost useless, unless they went on to tell you this as well, but to my experience somethings always left out.

I agree 100%, Mike and I were discussing the other day how awesome we did on the South side of the lake about 2 months ago. We noticed other fisherman around us that were not doing nearly as well, but we had this one pattern that was limited to a very specific area within the area and tore them up.

I will disagree with information mentioned by Gar Tracker, since I still believe that information tends to get someone into a general pattern or area and its up to the fisherman to do the rest.

[salmicropterus]

Good stuff all that. Just to clarify, we were in a spot in an area and the mentioned angler came in later, obviously not coming in on us. We didn't have information-we just went to an area we thought was promising. My joke was based on the idea that we were all doing the same thing-flinging dippers. I totally agree with all said. In a team tournament up at Lake Kissimmee about a month ago, we worked a 300 yd area back and forth for two days. Within the area, there were three spots, 5-10 yds wide and within that a very specific type of varied vegetation, that consistently produced quality fish. We won the T by 14+ #. Let's just say we were dumb enough not to outsmart ourselves and move out of there. We locked in on 2 patterns that changed as the day progressed. Saved a lot on gas too.

[FishinDaddy]

Would ya care to share that spot with a brother?

[gar-tracker]

When I use the term information I mean fishing areas based on what other fisherman told you.

I understand at times some info can be helpful as far as the general pattern or what the fish are doing but there's fisherman that spend more time trying to find out where people are catching fish rather then just go and finding fish themselves.

IMO, it just brings you to worn out fish that have been beat up, if someones telling you about it then 5 other people already know about it. Have you ever noticed many of times that the good fisherman are in another new spot while a crowd of people are where he was the last tournament.

Salmicropterus I didn't mean to insinuate that you went in on him I was just using that situation to comment on the topic of "information". I apologize if sounded that way. It probably deserves its own thread.

[salmicropterus]

"Salmicropterus I didn't mean to insinuate that you went in on him I was just using that situation to comment on the topic of "information". I apologize if sounded that way. It probably deserves its own thread."

Gar, I didn't take it that way at all. We were at opposite ends of a large flat and they were moving one way and us the other. When we recognized who it was we said "we must be in a good area" .

BTW, I agree that information, if it means spots, is fairly useless. I used to chase information too and if I made any improvement at all this last year in my thinking it's in listening to the feedback from the fish and not the dock talk. The "spot" I mentioned in my post above at Kissimmee was a first stop on Saturday where I told my "non" I thought we could catch a quick but small limit and we did. Then inexplicably, the fish just kept upgrading all day-same phenomenon Sunday. If I told any of you the spot, you would laugh and say that you have been there many, many times as it's usually a community hole. But, for some reason, no one was there but us the entire weekend. We did have a rocket-launcher on board just in case.

[GLADES]

If I may chime in. I think that the 'T dock information' can be useful or counter productive. Sometimes ms-information can ruin your day. You have to use your head and let your instincts guide you to search for your own spots while pre-fishing or while entering a T blind.
To be fair, a couple of my BR brothers have put me on bass, with exact instructions! I always try to do the same. I appreciate that good stuff, but tourneys are another story.
I have won a couple of club T's, and in every case I went against the prevailing thoughts at the dock because I want to fish areas that are clear of other boats that are spooking the bass.
Just my .02

[Bank'nOnBass]

Had a dream that bass were spawning everywhere. It was mayhem.

[FishinDaddy]

Had a dream that bass were spawning everywhere. It was mayhem.

That was not happening today. Taylor and I got blanked on the south end of Kissimmee. We did however, lock down to the river and have an awesome bacon cheeseburger from River Ranch!

[South FLA]

Had a dream that bass were spawning everywhere. It was mayhem.

I have that dream often!


Dock Talk:

What were they hitting, where at and what was the predominate pattern. Maybe your "information" may lead me to fish.

Good information:

Capt. X, go out the third cut, find the first cove and look for the eel grass and arrow heads, flip and pitch a white Hydra and hold on! If the wind is blowing hang on the inside edge and throw spinner-baits around Kissimmee grass.

Its up to the fisherman to improvise and go by experience based on Dock talk or valid information.

[FishinDaddy]

Dock talk.

I share and get information from a select few people. The information I get is always truthful from these guys. The last three BR guys that asked for info have all found their biggest fish on my spots and the last 2 cashed checks. I would say that is pretty good "dock talk".

[piscicidal]

I agree 100%, Mike and I were discussing the other day how awesome we did on the South side of the lake about 2 months ago. We noticed other fisherman around us that were not doing nearly as well, but we had this one pattern that was limited to a very specific area within the area and tore them up.

Yeah, that was just sick. +80 fish/27 lbs by noon. Boats around us not doing anything. Funny thing, I was fishing in the same boat as you and didn't start catching until I changed my setup to EXACTLY match yours. I even had to change my rod to get the right action. Point is...we could have given someone the exact GPS coordinate to that spot, but odds are they would not have had that kind of success.

I was on the lake Thursday morning. Water temp = 66 degrees. I didn't see anything on the beds but I caught some nice fish staged up nearby. Caught a couple flipping mats near the beds also. I heard water temps were 62 yesterday, so we should see a wave moving up soon.

[gar-tracker]

Yeah, that was just sick. +80 fish/27 lbs by noon. Boats around us not doing anything. Funny thing, I was fishing in the same boat as you and didn't start catching until I changed my setup to EXACTLY match yours. I even had to change my rod to get the right action. Point is...we could have given someone the exact GPS coordinate to that spot, but odds are they would not have had that kind of success.

This is exactly my point.

Like South Fla mentions and like much about everything in life, the BS filter has got to be on and in high gear when fishing is concerned.