SmallieFever

Holy smokes! I've seen them in there like that but never caught one. Makes me want to take my bow out with me! I love wackin' carp with the ol' Grizzly

lol, have at it....that was all it produced besides a couple pickerel 8-) You make it out on the water yet?

I've seen 5-6lb Largies under our dock and boat lift in July. Every time I put the finesse worm under she just slides back a little farther til I can't see her anymore. I got this one on a shakey head in July...my best LM out of there. Note the old hook under the gill... I removed it; she seemed to be fine. I will be hitting it alot earlier and more frequently this year, so hopefully I'll pick up some better fish.

I used hair jigs with grub trailer and suspending Pin Minnow for around the outlets, then switched to 1/4oz. 2.5" pumpkin/purple flake tube for all the deeper water applications. Hope Painted Rock produces for ya!

We put in at the canal and it was all open. First we hit Cargill discharge then worked our way out to the big concrete wall with no success. So we decided to go up to US Salt (great looking spot) and fished there for at least an hour. From there we went Glenora Point and found bait fish near the creek but found no bass. Then we crossed to the east side and down to Eldridge Point where I had one follow, in about 20ft on 2.5" tube. We continued to fish south on the drop the parallels the bank until it started pouring around 1pm. Back at the boat launch I talked to a guy that has been fishing perch the past couple weeks...he said he ended up with 20 nice smallies about a week ago on a grub. He was after perch in 20-25ft ...casting shallow and retrieving deep and the bass hit on beginning of the retrieve. Said he fished hard today and caught a few perch but zero bass...so I'm hoping it wasn't all me :-[ Hmm, where's painted rock? Good luck if you get out there!

-The conditions sound about right for the ol' Slug-go Well, it's confirmed. I'm off to Seneca bright and early in the A.M. to see what I can stir up. Just spooled a couple of my rods with fresh line and put the finishing touches on the rest....can't wait to get a line in the water!

Beardog- Thanks a bunch for the input. I know what you mean with all the boat traffic! It's hard to believe how little space people give you on the water. I'm looking forward VERY much to the night fishing on Keuka...but I'm also willing to brave the mid-day traffic to try some new things and locations. I'm quite stoked about it actually! ;D I may be getting on Keuka or Seneca this weekend if all goes well...they're calling for upper 50's-low 60's.

That's the kinda bass dreams are made of! what a toad....I'm certainly no expert but I wouldn't be surprised if she was close to 7lbs. I'd be more confident of this guess if she was a lil longer but with that kind of girth the weight has to be right up there. LoL at the Rosie joke...sounds like something I'd say.

Haha I hear ya there! I've never had the boat out this time of year...what kind of precautions do you have to take after being on the water to prevent your outboard from freezing and busting? Just curious because the side of my garage the boats in isn't heated...and I suppose it could freeze during transport for that matter.

I did real well last year here in Pa with Junebug tubes and Yum Woolybugs, even in clear water. I thought it was odd, but who am I to question what a bass wants lol.

Tuckman- Thats sounds like a sweet set up by that discharge! You ever fish the power plant discharge up in Dresden? Should be the same kind of situation especially in the early season I would think...

Wow huskybass, what a toad! That's a beautiful fish right there.

20.5......on my 6'.6" light action spinner rod on 6lb test, what a blast!

Thanks everyone for all the help I don't think I even own any spoons or bladebaits besides an old daredevil or two..guess I better stock up. The dropshotting and senko/float methods are quite appealing as well. SPAZ- I checked out the SOB baits...I was quite impressed with the spinnerbaits and ended up ordering a few Mini Me's, two of which were 3/4oz single willows, the other was 3/8 black/red with colorado thumper for gettin after em at night.

Perhaps a lipless crankbait would be the best option?

Tuckman- Any word on the launch sites on Keuka or Seneca? I was wondering if there is ice built up around them...If we get an unseasonably warm day, I just might have to get out there and see what I can stir up

Hey guys, I'm looking for opinions on the best way to target smallies suspended in 100ft of water at between 30' and 60'. Most of the deeper running crankbaits are only at around 18ft, and I'm thinking it may be hard to get a spinnerbait that deep. Maybe swimming a tube or grub could work? I know that they could come UP for these offerings that aren't getting that deep, but this is assuming that they aren't that aggressive. Thanks for the help

Tuckman- Great post! Thanks for sharing, that's some good stuff right there It will definitely come in handy. Paul- I got my book yesterday and I'm very pleased. Between the info on this site and in the book I should be well on my way to some Keuka bronze backs!

Just an FYI- I talked with employee at Gander Mtn. today about the Sufix line. He said that there are very large shipments, especially from Sufix and Berkley that are being held in Customs....he said he expects them to arrive within 3-5 weeks, but there is no guarantee of that. I also handled some of the Trilene 100% and it seemed to be very supple, for anyone who might be interested.

Hi there. I was just wondering if anyone knows when this line will be out? Maybe some of you have gotten your hands on it already, but it's nowhere to be seen from N. Central Pa to Ohio...I've checked (road trip). I'm a big fan of Sufix Siege, Elite, and braid. Never tried fluoro, but I figured Sufix would be the one to start with. Thanks for any input!

Thanks again, Paul. After a call to Mr. Sanders I learned that the Fishing Guide 2 is out of print...and likely will stay that way :'(. He said mainly because of the lack of interest from the public and a few other things that were slowing the process of the finishing of the new revised version he had hopes of releasing. Soooo I got on amazon and ordered myself a used copy 8-)...so I'm back in the game! I talked to Mr. Sanders for half an hour...man I wish I could fish with this gentleman for a season! The amount of experience/information you would obtain from him would be unbelievable, I'm sure. Seems like a real great guy to say the least.

Hey Md, no I didn't catch that. Man, would it be sweet to find that spot or similar situation early in the prespawn. Maybe there will be some info/maps on that kind of known structure in the Sanders fishing guide I just orderded... Hope so.

Just ordered the third edition of Sanders Fishing Guide for Western NY...I should have KVD's Bass Strategies done by the time it gets here.

Thanks everyone for all the advice. Previous years on Keuka I would mostly fish the outside weed lines like I saw EVERYONE else doing. I didn't catch much but I didn't see them tearing them up either...but I just didn't know what else to do. I tried other places but didn't know how to use my electronics to my advantage. I DO need to use my electronics ALOT more and more wisely this year. I will definitely look for the balls of alewives and then capitalize with senkos, etc. Contacting the DEC sounds like a great idea as well as the Sanders Guide...which I WILL have. These "boulder Flats" that you speak of, are they numerous or is this one specific area? Thanks again guys! Keep it coming! :) Can't wait to get after em!!!!

I doubt many have even heard of B&R Outlaw Rods, but they are certainly worth a look...especially at $130. That was my primary rod for tubes last year in 6'6" med/fast with Quantum E30PTi-A. The B&R is quite light and Sensitive with great backbone and is IMHO probably the best bang for the buck out there. It was rumored that an ex designer from G-Loomis joined up with B&R to create their awesome blanks. Check em out on the web. Last week I ordered the St. Croix Legend Tournament 7' Tube model because of all the great reviews on this line of rods. Not sure on what reel to match it up with at this point. But anyways best of luck! Hope you find a rod that suites you Here is a couple pics... 5lb LM and my buddy with a nice smallie on our 6'6" Med/fast B&R's. also another 3lb+ Sm from same day, same rod. all on tubes.