Hi Lloyd, lie you, I'd like to meet more fishermen in the St Louis area. I've lived here a long time, but am really from NJ, so I don't know a lot of the fishing holes that being bought up in an area seem common knowledge. The past five years or so my wife an I have been going to Table Rock lake in mid September. Found a great place to stay cheap off season. I love to fish, but I'm not a really good fisherman. Let me know If you'd like to get together some time.