Though I rarely use live shiners, there are 3 professional guides living in my community
who encourage their clients to use wild golden shiners (the ends justifies the means):
As Per Professional Shiner Netter
=> Obtain "Quaker Oats Oatmeal" for chum
=> Find a Shallow Weedy Shoal in 'dingy' water
=> Select 3 separate chum sites in 2-ft of water (1.5 to 2.5 ft)
=> Broadcast 1 cup of oatmeal per 15-ft area
=> Mark each bait site with a Styrofoam marker, but to prevent divulging your operation,
position each marker offsite (e.g. 20 yd north of the site nucleus)
=> Wait at least two hours then return to the site gingerly and quietly
=> Toss a cast net into the nucleus of the bait site
A good haul might snare two dozen shiners, a bad haul...'zero')
At a buck a shiner the price of a golden roach seems exorbitant, but if you try your hand
at netting your own shiners, you might begin to realize that the netters earn their money
Roger