MoonManiversity

The bass in Indiana had the coloration on the top lip.* I think it would be easier to target the big one and not deal with the small ones on something like a shark fly pattern-ish (More just in the size of fly I have seen used for sharks.) Probably going to attempt to tie one off one of the giant shark fly concepts. Mr. Oregon. ... .... Nice fish!

I left for a spot right after that post. Thanks for the quick response, I am in Daphne AL, east of Mobile. I now see the form, very helpful. as well thank you. Looked on Orvis, but I am looking for a really big bream fly, the big bass looked like they were feeding exclusively on the large ones. (For the two minutes I watched the troop in the shallows) I'm sure I could hook them on smaller flies. The question about the top lip. Just moved down south from Indiana, and in a few different ponds the bass had dark brown/black/grey on the inside of the top lip. Wondered if it meant anything to you guys. Once again, thanks for your time. You can keep it going, but I am pooped.

Names Andrew, I started fishing about two years ago on live worms wrapped around an available hook, since then I've moved on to the fly and have caught the bug. I am interested in majoring and attaining an advanced degree in a marine biological field, or possibly a fisheries specialty. That leads to the point of the thread. At the moment I am exclusively wade fly fishing (9 weight) a medium sized pond (Width=40 yds Length=120-150) It seems to be extremely well taken care of, I see what seems to be an aerator, there is a rather large pier, plenty of sub surface trees, a few overhangs, and points. It seems to be about 4' deep 4' off the bank I'd guess 8'-10' in the middle. I am starting a fishing log right now and so far the data I am going to collect: Conditions: Sun/Moon rise, noon, set, distance from earth at the time of both, moon phase, Weather: air temp hourly for whatever time fished. I also intend to record what flies I use and what retrieves were used for both succesful and unsuccessful attempts. Lengths, girths, mouth colorations, and where specifically they were caught. I have drawn a map of the pond with a legend of all structure and available cover I am aware of with the intention of adding too. About 5 years ago there was a fish recorded (or so I've been told twice) at 8 pounds. I saw about 4 bass of 5 or more pounds obliterating bream in a shallow flat, and what I believe to be a bass (skepticism comes from size) 12-15LBS on a glance. (Never seen carp, or cats in there, and it was facing the bank at night when I got to see it. My questions are: What am I missing for my daily log? (it is only going to be for this pond.) How should I measure water temp? How to best determine gender? Does anyone have knowledge of what I can derive from the coloration of the inner top lip? Also I am looking for fly patterns that immitate a rather large Bream, I want to target the lunker. I have read pretty religiously since I found this site a few weeks ago and intend on becoming a regulare poster. All tips are welcome, especially fly specific. ...And this turned out to be pretty long and dry, thanks for reading it.