thanks jeff h but just got back from pre fishing and almost got skunked. 10 hrs of fishing and only 1lbs to show for. there was a canoe tournament going on and i guess that didn't help either. fished all breaks and weed lines with nothing to show for. should of tried the docks. lol. it was a tough bite with heavy winds and water temp was at 62. all in all, it was brutal. heard the canoe tournament winning bag was 17lbs 10 oz. Wow! i guess the lake does have fish, i just suck.