thanks for the reply, we went along the canoe trail which is 5.5 miles, tough trip especially in that heat. for anyone thinking about it I suggest go to mile maker 2 and turn around. the bass went crazy, easily pulled up 15 fish some of them real nice. 3 lbs was the biggest I pulled in the boat had an easy 7lber that snapped my line when trying to get it in the boat. I used 5" senko watermelon red flake the entire time. fish were in the lily pads most of the day. I'm going back out soon.