Have you considered Pac-Bay minima use type M match guides as your first 3, The match guides are tall enough to get a proper layout then go to the regular for your running guides up to the tip, You can get them with titanium coated rings if you choose. I don't care for the Recoils as they have a habit to talk to you, They sing when wet line passes through them I find them annoying. I have had Great Luck with all the Pac-Bay guides, I use them on most of my personal builds their great guides for a great price! Hard to beat, Jaa