I'm looking for some advice setting up a Cumara CUSDX72M as a finesse rod.  I'm looking to confirm that a Fuego 2500 is a better match than Fuego 1500.  Also, I'm looking for line suggestions.  This rod will complement an IMX SJR 783, Kistler LTX 7'0 MHF and a few baitcasting rigs.

 

I usually fish from the bank of a rocky quarry.  I mostly use 10lb Gamma Copoly because baits get wedged in the rocks, in reeds, or trees etc...  The Gamma lets me save a lot more lures compared t 6 & 8lb mono.  Sometimes I go down to 6lb Gamma.

 

I'd like to try FC line with smaller baits for a real finesse presentation.  I'm trying to balance thinner diameter vs strength.  Any suggestions are welcome.

 

Thanks

 

Leon

 

I was just looking for a spinning reel for my new Medium.  What weight line do you plan on using?  I figure on using 8# mono on mine.  The 1500 size doesn't hold quite enough line.  The 2500 size holds more than needed.  Couldn't find a Fuego or other Daiwa 2000 that interested me when I was looking.  Wound up with a Shimano 2500 which equates to a Daiwa 2000 as far as line capacity is concerned.  If you plan on using 6# or less (mono diameter) then the 1500 should be fine.  Putting 6# (or even 8#) Fluoro on a 2500 is going to be more expensive than necessary unless you load some mono first for backing.  Almost went that way before I found a Shimano that interested me.

 

If you are going to stick with 10#, then definitely go with the 2500 size.  Given where you fish, I think 10# would match your conditions better than anything lighter.

I'm looking for some advice setting up a Cumara CUSDX72M as a finesse rod.  I'm looking to confirm that a Fuego 2500 is a better match than Fuego 1500.  Also, I'm looking for line suggestions.  This rod will complement an IMX SJR 783, Kistler LTX 7'0 MHF and a few baitcasting rigs.

 

I usually fish from the bank of a rocky quarry.  I mostly use 10lb Gamma Copoly because baits get wedged in the rocks, in reeds, or trees etc...  The Gamma lets me save a lot more lures compared t 6 & 8lb mono.  Sometimes I go down to 6lb Gamma.

 

I'd like to try FC line with smaller baits for a real finesse presentation.  I'm trying to balance thinner diameter vs strength.  Any suggestions are welcome.

 

Thanks

 

Leon

 

First off, you scored on your rod. The Cumara CUSDX72M is an excellent rod. Obviously, it is great at dropshotting but also is one of the few rods that can dropshot so well and go out and fish other techniques.I personally have this rod and it is one of my favorites fishing alongside my Loomis NRX 822SYR. There is no reason to put 10lb line on it unless you are fishing some really heavy cover. Your best bet is to go with 8lb fluorocarbon. DO NOT buy the cheap stuff. Go with some quality line. In ascending prices I would choose Seaguar Invizx, Sunline FC Sniper, or Seaguar Tatsu.

 

I just learned that 6lb seaguar Tatsu has a breaking strength slightly over 11 pounds. Not sure about the 8lb, but it lets you know what quality FC line can offer. Invizx and Tatsu have better handling than sniper does and if you are new to FC that is a good property to look for. Tatsu also has a great deal more longevity than the previously lines mentioned so the money comes back to you in that form. Also, KVD line conditioner is a must. Add it to your line and it makes a large difference.  10lb line to me just seems like an overkill for this rod, I would not go there unless necessary.

 

As far as reels go I have put both a Stradic 2500ci4 (7.0 ounces) and a Stradic 2500FJ (9.2 ounces) on mine and I felt that the FJ balanced slightly better, but both did fine. Point is, you can probably slide with either of the Fuego's, but much of this is going to depend on how you hold the rod. If you hold it above the reel the lighter reel would be more suitable. For the DS technique I prefer to hold it similar to how Aaron Martens does (check his vid). So take that FWIW. If you can get a chance to mount reels that are similar in weight to the fuego's or the actual fuego's do so and choose the one that feels best for you. Both should be able to hold enough 8lb line. Good luck and enjoy, that is a nice rod.

Match the reel to the rod and the diameter of the line to the reel, about as complicated as I think it needs to be.  If the larger of the 2 reels is a better match just spool it up with more line.  Strength should not be a concern, just about all modern lines break at higher pound test than what's indicated on the package.  I limp my line by using hot water and liquid fabric softner.

First off, you scored on your rod. The Cumara CUSDX72M is an excellent rod. Obviously, it is great at dropshotting but also is one of the few rods that can dropshot so well and go out and fish other techniques.I personally have this rod and it is one of my favorites fishing alongside my Loomis NRX 822SYR. There is no reason to put 10lb line on it unless you are fishing some really heavy cover. Your best bet is to go with 8lb fluorocarbon. DO NOT buy the cheap stuff. Go with some quality line. In ascending prices I would choose Seaguar Invizx, Sunline FC Sniper, or Seaguar Tatsu.

 

I just learned that 6lb seaguar Tatsu has a breaking strength slightly over 11 pounds. Not sure about the 8lb, but it lets you know what quality FC line can offer. Invizx and Tatsu have better handling than sniper does and if you are new to FC that is a good property to look for. Tatsu also has a great deal more longevity than the previously lines mentioned so the money comes back to you in that form. Also, KVD line conditioner is a must. Add it to your line and it makes a large difference.  10lb line to me just seems like an overkill for this rod, I would not go there unless necessary.

 

As far as reels go I have put both a Stradic 2500ci4 (7.0 ounces) and a Stradic 2500FJ (9.2 ounces) on mine and I felt that the FJ balanced slightly better, but both did fine. Point is, you can probably slide with either of the Fuego's, but much of this is going to depend on how you hold the rod. If you hold it above the reel the lighter reel would be more suitable. For the DS technique I prefer to hold it similar to how Aaron Martens does (check his vid). So take that FWIW. If you can get a chance to mount reels that are similar in weight to the fuego's or the actual fuego's do so and choose the one that feels best for you. Both should be able to hold enough 8lb line. Good luck and enjoy, that is a nice rod.

 

Glad to here the DS Cumara is fairly versatile.  I figure your 2 Stradics are like the Fuego & Tierra 2500.  I'd been leaning towards the larger size because I find larger diameters have better line management.  Especially concerned if moving to fluorocarbon...  I'm leaning towards 8lb flouro vs 6lb copoly.  Quarry bottoms eat baits and fishing from the bank does allow for much repositioning.  Occassionally, yanking will loosen the bait, that's where line strength becomes important.  I've had the 2500 Fuego for a year, with no rod for it...If it's too light to balance (nice problem to have) I'll switch it out with something else.

 

I've been using KVD line conditioner with good success.

 

Is it safe to assume Red Lable is a pretty big step down from Invisx?

Glad to here the DS Cumara is fairly versatile.  I figure your 2 Stradics are like the Fuego & Tierra 2500.  I'd been leaning towards the larger size because I find larger diameters have better line management.  Especially concerned if moving to fluorocarbon...  I'm leaning towards 8lb flouro vs 6lb copoly.  Quarry bottoms eat baits and fishing from the bank does allow for much repositioning.  Occassionally, yanking will loosen the bait, that's where line strength becomes important.  I've had the 2500 Fuego for a year, with no rod for it...If it's too light to balance (nice problem to have) I'll switch it out with something else.

 

I've been using KVD line conditioner with good success.

 

Is it safe to assume Red Lable is a pretty big step down from Invisx?

 

 

There are tradeoffs with all the mid-priced seaguar lines. Red label, invizx, abrazx all have properties that are give and take. Red-label is going to stretch less than invizx, but be less manageable. I recommend Invizx in that price range for spinning gear just because of its manageability. Fluorocarbon often puts people off because of its performance in that aspect, invizx is a great handling line. 

 

As far as the relationship between manageability and diameter goes, the higher lb test fluorocarbon, the less manageable the line is. It gets stiffer and the memory is higher. There won't be a large difference between 6 and 8lb line, but if you fish 20lb fluoro vs 12lb you'll get the idea.

 

I would not worry too much about the starting cost of FC. Its a buy once cry once sort of deal. You can put 50 yards on at a time, get 4 spools out of it and that makes Tatsu cost $10 a spool and the mid-priced seaguar's less than $5. I have not fished red-label so I cannot give really good feedback on how well it fishes on spinning gear, maybe someone else can chime in?, but my recommendation would be to order invizx in that price range. If you want a stiffer line I would probably step up up to FC Sniper. If you want the best properties of all fluoro's in one line....that's Tatsu.

Thanks!

Awesome rod for dropshot and shakeys! Throw some 5-8lb fluoro on that fuego, Sunline sniper FC and Seaguar invis-x handle great on spinning reels, you already got KVD L&L to treat the line with...sounds like you're ready to fish