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Frogging Rod Vs Flipping Rod

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I'm looking at Frogging Rod and Flipping Rod from Daiwa. They both have H action. What would be the main difference between that two type of rods? Flipping got softer tip?

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My frog rod is a 7'4" Heavy Fast Cumara, and my flippin' stick, is a 7'7" Heavy Fast Cumara. You could probably pull double duty no problem.

check the st.croix webpage you will find what u need....

My experience is that your flippin stick will be more sensitive as manufacturers know flipping relies more on sensitivity than frogging. My 2c worth out of a marketing point of view is that when building a frogging stick manufacturer's can rely on a not so much a lower quality blank but a less sensitive blank to get the job done resulting in a lower manufacturing cost thus improving profitibility with the finished product. 

 

I would rather use a flipping stick for frogging for this piece of mind. Another variable I take into consideration is that manufacturers spend millions in refining flipping sticks to get the weight down as low as possible as they know a heavy rod and reel setup is a very daunting task especially considering some pro's use the majority of their day flipping and pitching when conditions are ideal. Pro's can't afford the fatigue in a real world 8hour + fishing day. Please don't quote me as there are very good frogging products on the market. This is simply an individual opinion and one that gives me more confidence in this specific application.

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My experience is that your flippin stick will be more sensitive as manufacturers know flipping relies more on sensitivity than frogging. My 2c worth out of a marketing point of view is that when building a frogging stick manufacturer's can rely on a not so much a lower quality blank but a less sensitive blank to get the job done resulting in a lower manufacturing cost thus improving profitibility with the finished product.

I would rather use a flipping stick for frogging for this piece of mind. Another variable I take into consideration is that manufacturers spend millions in refining flipping sticks to get the weight down as low as possible as they know a heavy rod and reel setup is a very daunting task especially considering some pro's use the majority of their day flipping and pitching when conditions are ideal. Pro's can't afford the fatigue in a real world 8hour + fishing day. Please don't quote me as there are very good frogging products on the market. This is simply an individual opinion and one that gives me more confidence in this specific application.

Rods in the same line up usually have the same base blank material.

Look around at your different frog specific rods, there are probably more of them that come from Mid to highend blanks than lowend.

When you buy yur Shimano Crucial Frog rod, the manufactuer is not giving you a Convergence blank because they can, they are giving you a Crucial blank.

Guys, the difference in FROG SPECIFIC RODS, is in the tip, much softer.

That's right^^, or at least it should be. Frogs often need to be cast long distances and a traditional flipping stick won't load as well as something with a softer tip. You may very well find this in something not labeled as a frog rod since labels are largely about marketing. I found an in-shore salt water blank that makes a great frog rod.

I throw frogs on a dobyns 735c champion. The rod is sensitive enough for jigs and casts well enough for frogs. Shorter people will not like using the 735c for frogs since it is 7ft 3, especially if you are walking the frog.  where I fish I dont feel that a H action is necessary for frogs but this may not apply to you. 

I prefer my frog rod to be shorter. That is about the only difference. 

 

I prefer the opposite. I like the longer rod to cast frogs greater distances, and the shorter flipping and pitching rods to work in tighter spaces. 

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