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New Johnny Morris Signature (Kr Concept)

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What do you think about this rod compared to something like a Bucoo Micro or Tournament SL Speed Stick?

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I don't know about the other two, but wow, the 

new JM Sig series rods are *very* sweet.

 

Lighter to my hands than the previous generation,

and the new guides are awesome.

The Fuji KR Concept can not be fully employed without knowing the size of the reel being used and type of line. Take any marketing you see using this term with a grain of salt.

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The Fuji KR Concept can not be fully employed without knowing the size of the reel being used and type of line. Take any marketing you see using this term with a grain of salt.

 

Curious about that, I've often wondered if 10 pound 

Power Pro at 2# mono equivalent, would still pose 

a problem for the K guides.

I'm curious how they compare as well. How do the blanks on the bps rods compare durability wise to the more expensive blanks from other manufactures? I owned extremes before I upgraded to st croix and I liked the bps rods while I had them. It was said once by a guy who builds rods that the difference is that in the bps rods in general, will tend to loose some of their action over time while the more expensive blanks will remain crisp over time. I wasn't sure if he was full of it or not. Can anyone elaborate? Sorry if I hijacked the thread btw. I'm interested in the new bps rods as well.

Curious about that, I've often wondered if 10 pound 

Power Pro at 2# mono equivalent, would still pose 

a problem for the K guides.

The KR Rapid Choke concept is specifically for just such a setup. I just don't know ho well it is employed on this particular layout. I'm sure it will work just fine, it just bugs me when production rod marketers usurp techniques and terms that are unique to a custom build. 

 

I'm curious how they compare as well. How do the blanks on the bps rods compare durability wise to the more expensive blanks from other manufactures? I owned extremes before I upgraded to st croix and I liked the bps rods while I had them. It was said once by a guy who builds rods that the difference is that in the bps rods in general, will tend to loose some of their action over time while the more expensive blanks will remain crisp over time. I wasn't sure if he was full of it or not. Can anyone elaborate? Sorry if I hijacked the thread btw. I'm interested in the new bps rods as well.

I have never seen, and don't even believe it possible for carbon fiber of any quality level to degrade over time. Sorry to come off sounding harsh but I call BS on this one. If you want the most crisp and responsive rod you can get, use the smallest lightest guides that will hold up and pass your connections. 

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Thanks for the response, DVT. Interesting.

 

So if, say, I were to have these guides put on

an existing rod to replace the current guides, 

knowing that I use a Stradic 1000 and a Chronarch

50e would help you know which guides to use.

 

The Stradic using 10lb PP, the Chronarc, 20lb PP.

 

The KR Rapid Choke concept is specifically for just such a setup. I just don't know ho well it is employed on this particular layout. I'm sure it will work just fine, it just bugs me when production rod marketers usurp techniques and terms that are unique to a custom build. 

 

 

Thanks for the response, DVT. Interesting.

 

So if, say, I were to have these guides put on

an existing rod to replace the current guides, 

knowing that I use a Stradic 1000 and a Chronarch

50e would help you know which guides to use.

 

The Stradic using 10lb PP, the Chronarc, 20lb PP.

Right, especially on a spinning rod because the coils need to be tamed coming off the spool. On the casting rod the guide height helps keep a straight line path to the tip but far less critical than for a spinning guide train. The idea of the K frame guides is to get height without the weight of bigger rings and insert. The more supple the line the more aggressive you can get with the rapid choke. This is where the K(high frame)R (rapid choke) concept comes in. By using a small in comparison stripper, and two reduction guides followed by small light weight runners the end result is an impressively crisp and well casting rod. On a rod used with a 2500 size reel casting braid the KR train would be something like 16/8/5.5/4.5..... A traditional OTC rod would use 25/16/12/8/6..... or something like that. I'd probably use a similar KR train on a rod matched with a 1000 size reel for line up to 8 or 10# fluoro unless it was really nasty still coiled. A custom build allows for and should take full advantage of, test casting. Obviously a mass production atmosphere doesn't lend itself to this luxury. Kinda what set me off in the first place. For the ultimate in versatile performance, say a rod would swap the 2500 or 1000 for a 4000 for a day or redfishing, the Am Tack Micro Wave setup is the way to go.

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Good stuff DVT...

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