so i see some people say that they use a medium light or whatever rod for their "treble hook" lures... do you use the same rod for topwater trebles also?

 

would my 7ft veritas winch series be useful for topwater poppers? is a crankin rod okay for this application?

I like my Veritas M crankbait rod for most topwater (poppers, torpedoes, etc). I like having something heavier for throwing bigger lures like Spooks. In general, though, I like a softer tip any time I'm throwing treble hooks.

Edit: this is largely because I spool my rods with braid (no stretch) If I were to use mono, I'd be using a faster tip.

I like my topwater on my fast action rod with copoly. When I use topwater walling baits on my modfast rod I have to use more energy to snap the slack line.

A pretty reliable general rule (at least for me) is that trebles require a little give to help keep the hooks buried. So, the give has to come in either the Rod or the line. Braid = no give, while mono and most copolymer = stretch. With rods: Moderate or moderate/fast = give, while Fast/XF = no give.

Stiff rods with stretchy line or bendy Rod with no-stretch line... Either works. It's just preference. Personally, I like the benefit of casting distance I can get with braid, so I like having a Rod wih more give than stretchy line.

i guess i go against common thought because it doesn't matter if i'm using a top hook swimbait or size 4 trebles on a red eye shed , once hooked up , i reel them in the same way , get them to the top and wind them in , I've never felt the need for play in the rod to keep the treble hooks pinned and not ripped out of the fishes mouth as most people believe . yes , i use a heavy powered rod for all my baitcasting , the same rod is used for crankbaits , jigs , worms , weightless plastics , frogs , etc..

The main thing is for the rod to be matched to the weight of the lure.  I prefer slow actions for most cranks and surface lures, but there is one application for treble hook lures that you must have a fast action for.  When smallies are hitting hard jerks in the fall, they will not hit it unless it is really twitched fast, and you just cannot do that with a slow action rod.  At least that is how we have found it on Lake St Clair.

A pretty reliable general rule (at least for me) is that trebles require a little give to help keep the hooks buried. So, the give has to come in either the Rod or the line. Braid = no give, while mono and most copolymer = stretch. With rods: Moderate or moderate/fast = give, while Fast/XF = no give.

Stiff rods with stretchy line or bendy Rod with no-stretch line... Either works. It's just preference. Personally, I like the benefit of casting distance I can get with braid, so I like having a Rod wih more give than stretchy line.

yup. I always use braid, so I like mod fast rods for jigs, etc and moderate glass composite rods for most anything with trebles. To me X Fast rods are for mono.

Also braid and moderate rods both equate to more casting distance, which you want for cranks/topwaters, so when used together that equates to a killer combo.

High end rod builders say M/MOD for cranks and M/XF for top water. One rod for both I use M/F with 10 to 12 pound Mono.