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Puffball jig attempt

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Thanks to Smalljaw, I am trying to make puffball jigs. I am using up some of the old jigheads that I have laying around. This one is dark GP dalmation with some backbone blue added for accent on what I believe is an old weedless wally jighead. I tie a couple a night for the practice. 

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Nice. Never seen one before.

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That's pretty cool, Dave!

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looks good to me.  i've thought about tying some of those puffy jigs or lion's collars or whatever you want to call them, but haven't done it yet.

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I am still trying to figure out how to get the puff without the V shaped separation in the middle of the jig.

I am tying without a vise and am using 17 lb fluorocarbon. I use a diagonal cutting plier to make the groove needed and am using 1.5 skirt tabs per jig. Any suggestions are welcome!

Thanks,

Dave

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12 hours ago, Dave A said:

I am still trying to figure out how to get the puff without the V shaped separation in the middle of the jig.

I am tying without a vise and am using 17 lb fluorocarbon. I use a diagonal cutting plier to make the groove needed and am using 1.5 skirt tabs per jig. Any suggestions are welcome!

Thanks,

Dave

Instead of putting all the skirt material on and tying, try putting some material make a wrap or two add a little more material then another wrap or two. It's the wire or whatever your using to tie that's causing the separation. If you can get some skirt material to come btween wraps that should take out the separation. 

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Thanks- if the wrap is causing the separation, maybe I should be using a thinner thread rather than 17 lb fluoro.

I'll try your suggestion and post the results!

Thanks again,

Dave 

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I did some research on thread and found this in a fly tying site, flytyingworld.com. I was going to ask what size thread to use, but found this info, so I am going to order some dernier 400 due to it's strength, based on the amount of force that I have used using the fluoro.

Any opinions are most welcome!

 

:

The Use of Thread

By:  Ed Gallop

Thread Comparison Chart

Proper Tension

Attachment to the Hook

Silk threads were used for fly tying long before nylon and polyester came on the market.  Silk is still used by tiers of classic flies and by those that simply prefer it.  However, the most commonly used tying thread is polyester, followed by nylon, and then silk.  Personally, I have all three on my desk and each has it's own specific use.

Polyester is easier to handle so is used for most of my tying needs.  Nylon monofilament has brighter colors and is stronger.  However it has an undesirable smoothness, stiffness, and it stretches.  It's strength and smoothness is an asset when spinning hair (flaring for hair bugs) but the stiffness and smoothness make it harder to handle and causes it to slip on the hook.  I also believe the stretch characteristic of nylon monofilament may cause it to relax over time and thus slightly loose it's grip.  It will not lay as flat as most polyester but the colors make nice bright heads.

Thread Chart:  Below is a thread chart with breaking strength and denier estimates for several threads to help you select the best thread for your needs.  Most tying thread use diameter measurements (example; 3/0, 6/0, 8/0, etc) but Denier measures weight.  Denier is the number of grams in 9,000 meters and it is used in the textile as a means of measurement.

Uni Product

Denier/Size

Breaking Strength

Comment

 

 

 

 

Uni-Thread 17/0

40

4 oz

1 color (Midge)

Uni-Thread 8/0

72

16 oz

21 colors

Uni-Thread 6/0

135

1 lb 13 oz

24 colors

Uni-Thread 3/0

215

2.01 lbs

17 colors

Uni-Nylon 70

70

 

3 colors

Uni-Nylon 210

210

 

3 colors

Kevlar

200

8 lbs 6 oz

1 color

Big Fly Thread

400

6 lbs 4 oz

11 colors

Uni-Cord 12/0 GSP

50

4 lbs

Gel Spun - 6 colors

Uni-Cord 7/0 GSP

100

8 lbs

Gel Spun - 6 colors

Uni Big Fly

 

100 OZ

 

Uni A Nylon

 

44 OZ

 

Uni A+

 

60 OZ

 

Uni Neon 1X

240

36 OZ

 

Uni Poly II

 

34 OZ

 

 

 

 

 

Mono-Thread, Fine

.004"

1 lb 6 oz

Clear

Mono-Thread, Med

.007"

3.11 lbs

Clear

Mono-Thread, Large

010"

 

Clear

 

 

 

 

Uni-Floss

600

2.12 lbs

30 colors

 

 

 

 

Uni-Stretch

280

3.5 lbs

20 colors

 

 

 

 

Micro-Tinsel 3/0

 

1.06 lbs

 

Wire, Extra Small

.10mm

1.72 lbs

 

Wire, Small

.15mm

3.81 lbs

 

Wire, Medium

.20mm

6.91 lbs

 

 

Other Product

Denier/Size

Breaking Strength

Comment

 

 

 

 

  Benecchi 8/0

 

  28 OZ

 

Benecchi 10/0

 

24 OZ

 

Benecchi 12/0

 

16 OZ

 

 

 

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