So I found this new spot on the lake. Along the bank there are about 8 or so really nice spots to fish from. 3 of them are nice and clear,so I can throw swim jigs,wakes and any treble hooked baits.The "fun" spots are loaded with water chestnut mats. I have been trying to frog in them and have gotten a ton of hits(not going under,just being poked at) so I cant get a hook up. I was reading that under the mats are just as big of a mess as what is on top of the water. For those of you that fish this type of vegetation,am I wasting my time triong to frog in this or am I better off trying to pitch a weighted beaver style bait to get in the heart of the junk. I have never had trouble hooking up in pads and floating milfoil,so I was kind of thinking that the bass may not be able to get to my frog cleanly enough to choke it down. What do you think?

Try adding sime weight to your frog a couple sinkers in the body will help it sit lower in that mat and help you hook up

In case others were wondering about this,I finally came across this post.

http://www.richz.com/fishing/blog/?page_id=559

Fishing horny toads over thick weed mats is one of my favorite ways to catch bass. If they want it they'll get it. I have had more than one occasion where the "bass" that repeatedly slap at the bait but never quite eat it turn out to be gar. You might be encountering this.