So basically once the bait hits the water the bait will float a bit causing the bait to be straight up ? i got it pretty close to the hook pointing straight up but it's not like perfect like i see all these pros doing it

 

The one time i did it right the hook was straighter than it is now

9 hours ago, TOXIC said:

Personally, I only pull the tag end to cinch because the friction on the line will possibly weaken it and I want that possible failure point on the weight side not above the hook.  Your hook is hanging vertical because you have the bait on it.  If you want to check if your hook is facing the right way after you tie it on put a little pressure on the tag end without your bait and it should stand up.  If it doesn't, run it back through the hook eye from the top.  I Texas rig my DS baits with a #1 EWG hook but that is just me.  I don't like to nose hook DS baits.  

Yup! I do this too. I will also nose, wacky or texas rig my bait depending on the situation.  For example, if the nose presentation isn't cutting it, I'll switch to wacky (and vice versa) to change it up and it can pay off. If the environment is grassy, I will t-rig it with the appropriate hook.

 

To the OP: If this hasn't been said already, one way to guarantee that your hook will be correctly positioned is the hold your hook upright such that the point is facing the sky AND, the big and... You start the palomar knot inserting the line into the hook eye. The direction of the line is toward the ground and not skyward.  Continue to finish the knot.

 

Another thing I do is run the tag end through the eye after completing the knot, and once again from the top.

 

 

On 8/4/2018 at 11:08 PM, MIbassyaker said:

I don't understand how line stretch would be a factor in drop shotting, unless you're using heavy rod with the drag locked down.  With the drag set properly on a classic drop shot set up, with an ML spinning rod, how would you even notice any line stretch?

 

You may find you prefer the sensitivitiy or braid or flouro, but mono will do just fine with a drop shot.

 

Not sure the drag has anything to do with it?  I get what you're saying that the line will "stretch" more with a fish on and a heavier drag pressure, but I don't think the concern in mono's line stretch properties is due to fish fighting.  

 

For me, braid to Fluoro leader is a must in my typical drop shot fishing. Not only does the no stretch property of braid give you better sensitivity to feel the bottom and fish bites, it also requires you to move far less line to get a solid hookset in deep water.  

 

Additionally, small diameter (lb test) braids sink through the water column much better for deep water fishing due to the significantly reduced drag.  

56 minutes ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

So basically once the bait hits the water the bait will float a bit causing the bait to be straight up ? i got it pretty close to the hook pointing straight up but it's not like perfect like i see all these pros doing it

 

The one time i did it right the hook was straighter than it is now

 

Yes, especially if you are using a bait with a flat bottom.  If you are, make sure the flat bottom is facing down and it will create a lot of drag/buoyancy keeping the bait pointing upright.  Will work with any bait though.  As long as the hookpoint is facing upwards when you pull on the tag end you should be alright.

1 hour ago, Janderson45 said:

 

Yes, especially if you are using a bait with a flat bottom.  If you are, make sure the flat bottom is facing down and it will create a lot of drag/buoyancy keeping the bait pointing upright.  Will work with any bait though.  As long as the hookpoint is facing upwards when you pull on the tag end you should be alright.

I'm using a Fluke style bait

So basically the water current will keep it suspended ? even in a pond :? i was worried that the bait would bend the hook down against the line so the bait faces straight up to the sky

41 minutes ago, Ralph Nicholas Vito said:

I'm using a Fluke style bait

So basically the water current will keep it suspended ? even in a pond :? i was worried that the bait would bend the hook down against the line so the bait faces straight up to the sky

Easy enough to test out, just cast it in the water near the boat and look at it.  But yes, if the rig is set up correctly the fluke should stand out straight not fall down towards the line.

Fluorocarbon will give you better action, but you should be fine to use mono.

12 hours ago, islandbass said:

Another thing I do is run the tag end through the eye after completing the knot, and once again from the top.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Used it out on the pod i fish .. a little dink hit it just as the bait hit the water lol soooooooo ? i guess it works? but the fluke was missing when i brought him in

On 8/9/2018 at 6:24 PM, Janderson45 said:

 

Not sure the drag has anything to do with it?  I get what you're saying that the line will "stretch" more with a fish on and a heavier drag pressure, but I don't think the concern in mono's line stretch properties is due to fish fighting. 

 

Pressure on the line should bend the rod and pull drag before it beings to stretch the line. Essentially, line stretch should only be a factor when there aren't any other sources of "give", such as when the rod requires more force to bend (higher power), or when the drag is tight.