6 hours ago, Glenn said:

#! reason I don't use leaders. It's just another point of failure.  I have many more reasons, but that's the primary one.

He is not breaking at the leader knot, he is breaking at the hook.....

32 minutes ago, Heartland said:

He is not breaking at the leader knot, he is breaking at the hook.....

That's what I'm saying... the shock is.going to the weakest point.... I dont ...no many of of our brothers, have this problem.  I get that you want to reduce r how.many weak points you have, but in this case it's obviously his terminal knot.

Oh, got it. I misread your post. Thanks for clarifying.

This might help a bit. Net net based on what you said in your post the most important advice is to try the San Diego Jam knot.

On 6/16/2020 at 10:06 PM, BooyahMan said:

Have a weird phenomenon and was wondering if the knowledgeable anglers of Bass Resource could shed some light on this for me. Over the last few years I've been fishing with fluorocarbon leaders as the waters I'm fishing are pretty clear and have some pretty wary bass. I started out with 15lb Seaguar Red Label and had a ton of issues with snapping on the hookset with it. Even on brand new ties I found myself snapping the odd fish off. This year I bumped up to 20lb Seaguar STS and I typically retie before every trip to see if I could fix the problem; I use STS for salmon fishing and have never had any issues and, for that fishery at least, is a fluorocarbon I trust. The season started out okay with no break offs, but I have had a couple fish snap me off recently. Always on the hook set. The rod barely loads and then it snaps. It doesn't matter if it's close in or a long cast, and it seems to be breaking either right at the hook or right above it. It's gotten to the point where I'm losing a lot of confidence in running a leader at all. I only use it for texas rigging so I have a lead bullet weight, bead, and then a palomar knot to an EWG when rigging with the leader. I sometimes use a bobber stop to peg the weight. 

 

Another couple of observations. The leader never feels frayed or worn. I also have never snapped a fish off when sight fishing. It's always been when casting to structure and striking when the fish is chewing or starting to swim off with the hook.This is only an issue when bass fishing too. I have done some hero hook sets for other fisheries with no issues. 

Is this relatively normal with fluorocarbon leaders? How often do you guys retie your leaders; every trip? After a few fish? 

Any and all help is greatly appreciated! 

hey man i used to have some problems with this until i started using actual fluorocarbon leader line. Bend over the side of the boat and tie your palomar in the water, if you are breaking at the knot you are either burning the line while tying, setting the hook way too hard, or have a bad spool of line.