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I just worked a deal with a guy for a 12' Jon Boat with a trailer. Heres how the whole package works out:

12' Aluminum Gamefisher Jon Boat

1 Really Old Outboard(Unsure the make model or year or if it even works)

1 Trailer with Permanent plates

2 removable seats

1 Homemade anchor

1 Electric Trolling motor(Unsure of make,model or Thrust,I havent seen it yet)

2 Oars

All the above for $300. Is this a good deal? No this is NOT a for sale ad!!

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it looks pretty clean. If it doesnt leak, I'd say its worth it.

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It was kinda cool. I was out paying my Car Insurance and this guy noticed the 10'Jon Boat in the back of my truck.

Gets to askin me if I want a larger boat. He goes into detail about what all it includes and im thinking he was gonna say some big $$$ number. This was a deal I couldnt pass upIm thinking the trailer alone is worth at least a little money.

Now once I find out if its waterworthy and get it outfitted it to my liking,I can sell my 10' Jon and try to recoup some money. The $300 was the asking price and he needed it gone as the apartments where it was stored was looking to take possession of it. They had already cut the guys lock and put their own   on the chain.  As I was hooking the trailer up to my truck,there mustve been at least 6 maintenance/groundskeepers that inquired about it.Ya snooze...Ya Lose!!!

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Baot and trailer is worth $300, even if you threw all the other stuff away.

A new, cheap jon boat trailer is going to cost you $500, a cheap 12' jon is going for another $600.

Let me warn you about one thing. Those seat brackets "WILL" throw your butt in the water. The first time you lean a little sideways, the will lay over on you, making you hurt yourself trying to catch yourself or pitch you right on over.

Also check your lakes. I think a lot of AZ's lake are National Park lakes, placing them under federal guidelines. Which means two stroke anything is not allowed.

You will also need to make or buy you a set of side guides to go on the the trailer. A jon is very difficult to load without them. If in current on a steep ramp, you will need the post sticking up on both sides of the back or you will never get it on the trailer. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat21276-cat21382&rid=&indexId=cat21382&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=1&parentType=index&parentId=cat21382&id=0030707

The side guides work fine until you get on a steep ramp like a river bank that has current, then the side guides are not long enough and the boat will get pushed sideways over them.

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I wouldn't pay $300 for a 12 inch boat.  But that's just me.

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Baot and trailer is worth $300, even if you threw all the other stuff away.

A new, cheap jon boat trailer is going to cost you $500, a cheap 12' jon is going for another $600.

Let me warn you about one thing. Those seat brackets "WILL" throw your butt in the water. The first time you lean a little sideways, the will lay over on you, making you hurt yourself trying to catch yourself or pitch you right on over.

Also check your lakes. I think a lot of AZ's lake are National Park lakes, placing them under federal guidelines. Which means two stroke anything is not allowed.

You will also need to make or buy you a set of side guides to go on the the trailer. A jon is very difficult to load without them. If in current on a steep ramp, you will need the post sticking up on both sides of the back or you will never get it on the trailer. http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/horizontal-pod.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/pod-link.jsp_A&_DAV=MainCatcat21276-cat21382&rid=&indexId=cat21382&navAction=push&masterpathid=&navCount=1&parentType=index&parentId=cat21382&id=0030707

The side guides work fine until you get on a steep ramp like a river bank that has current, then the side guides are not long enough and the boat will get pushed sideways over them.

There was a thread some time ago about two strokes on some ponds and lakes being banned. I think you will find that reg applies to the carburetored and early fuel injection outboards, pre 1999, at least according to this from California.

Unless I'm mistaken the same standard was applied in all other states regarding the two stroke outboards.

Two-Stroke Vessel EnginesFacts About Two-Stroke Vessel Engines

Two-stroke engines are not "banned" for use on all waterways in California, nor is there any plan to do so.

Carbureted and electronic-injection two-stroke engines are considered high-emission engines. Generally, these engines were manufactured prior to 1999.

A carbureted two-stroke engine can emit up to 25-30 percent of its fuel unburned into the water or atmosphere, which is why high-emission engines are prohibited on some lakes.

There are no salt-water or river restrictions in California on high-emission two-stroke engines, excluding personal watercraft (vessels such as Jet Skis) bans in some areas. For example, San Francisco has prohibited personal watercraft within 1200 feet of its shoreline. See "Local Restrictions" on our Web page for a list of lakes.

Direct injection two-stroke engines, made since 1999, are considered clean emission engines and can be used on every water body in California, with some exceptions not related to emission limits.

A new direct injection two-stroke engine will normally have a label sticker (with 1 to 3 stars) on its engine cover indicating that it meets California Air Resources Board emission regulations for 2001, 2004, and 2008 for vessel engine manufacturers.

Explanation Of Two-Stroke Vessel Engine Regulations And Restrictions

Two-Stroke FAQ

Local Restrictions - Reservoirs that restrict two-stroke engines.

To see the local restrictions, click on the link below, then the "local restrictions" link on that.  Again, you will see that those restrictions apply to all personal water craft or the pre 1999 two stroke engines.

http://www.dbw.ca.gov/Environmental/TwoStroke/

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I wouldn't pay $300 for a 12 inch boat. But that's just me.

Ha ha I fixed it

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Personally I have never heard of a restriction on 2 stroke outboards here in Az. I know the lake I go to has an 8 HP restriction,some people get around that by putting 4 or 5 HP decals on a larger engine.

In addition to this 12' jon with trailer I just picked up,I have a 10' jon that I regularly use. I tool around the lake in it ,only propelled by a 40 Thrust Minn Kota TM. In the lake I fish a TM is all you REALLY need.

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