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Revo Premier vs. Daiwa Zillion

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I am in need of a new reel and I have it narrowed down to these 2.  I have never had either, I have always had shimanos.  Just wondering what helpful info anyone had on these two reels.

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I say Zillion all day long.

And I am a big Revo fan.

Really though, I do not think you can go wrong with either but from a general cosmetic standpoint, the Zillion pwns.  You know they are both solid performers, though.

Tackle Warehouse has a new plan with Diawa reels where you can test one out for a week for 20 bucks (Zillion included).  May be worth checking out in your situation.  

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I say Zillion all day long.

And I am a big Revo fan.

Really though, I do not think you can go wrong with either but from a general cosmetic standpoint, the Zillion pwns. You know they are both solid performers, though.

Tackle Warehouse has a new plan with Diawa reels where you can test one out for a week for 20 bucks (Zillion included). May be worth checking out in your situation.

that is why i am so torn the zillion looks ssssweet, but weighs alot  and the premier is super light but is pretty plain.

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Yeah, that does make the decision a hard one.

Maybe you can go to a place that has both and see which one feels the best on the rod you want to use it on.

I don't think you will regret either purchase.  The Skeet Reese Revo is neat looking reel too.  It looks awesome and is really light too.

It could be a little too flashy for some though...it is a really bright yellow.

http://www.***.com/descpageRLCABUGAR-AGSRR.html

Its close to the same price as the other two you are looking at.

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I'd pick the Zillion.  Yes, it's heavier.  But that's the only disadvantage, IMO.   The Zillion is gorgeous, and is as smooth as any reel I've ever cranked.

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would you say that it is smaller or bigger than the revo?  It appears from pics that the reel foot isn't as resessed as the revo, is this so?  If I had a easy way to compare them vs driving 3 hrs I would but since I don't I will take your guys word for it.  Thanks for the info.

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I have both and my next purchase will be a Revo. The Revo feels lighter, casts great and the looks are not that big of a deal. I am more interested in how it feels and if it is durable.

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I can't speak for the Daiwa as I am mainly a Shimano guy for my baitcasters (Daiwa for spinning) but I did purchase a Revo Premier last year and like it alot.  I got it on E-bay for about $190.00.  Very light and cast well.

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would you say that it is smaller or bigger than the revo? It appears from pics that the reel foot isn't as resessed as the revo, is this so? If I had a easy way to compare them vs driving 3 hrs I would but since I don't I will take your guys word for it. Thanks for the info.

It's about the same size.  It sits as low as the Revo on a Fuji reel seat.  It may look different because the brake-side side-plates are shaped differently.  But the Zillion sits as low as the Revo.

The one ergonomic advantage of the Zillion is that it's easier to palm.  If you wrap your index finger around the front of the reel below the line guide, your finger will hit the pawl cap on the Revo as it moves back and forth.   That's because on the Revo it stick out toward the front.  On the Zillion it sticks down and your finger doesn't hit that pawl cap.  

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I had two premiers for about 3 weeks.  I purchased them solely to resell, but I did get to fish with them.

Premier Advantages:

Significantly lighter(helps that wrist when fishing tip-up baits all day)

Smaller frame (you will appreciate this if you have small hands)

Zillion Avantages:

Made in Japan (This is apparent in the extremely tight tolerances the Zillion displays, and reflects a superior build quality)

Better brakes (Daiwa invented the magnetic brake, and they are still unrivaled.)

Looks (this is subjective...it really doesn't matter)

The Zillion's larger frame is better for me; I have XXL hands, but I realize the Premier will palm easier for people with not-so-huge hands.  

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I'd take the Premier. I own several of them and all have been great performers.

I would like to throw a Zillion around for a while though to see what all the hype is about.

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I don't think the Zillion has a larger frame at all. It has that flat part on top that may give the illusion of a larger frame, but side by side I can't see where one is bigger than the other. The Zillion is easier to palm, though. The flat part on top gives a great place to rest a thumb, and the finger is more easily wrapped aroung the front of the reel than on the Revo.

One advtange of the Revo STX (and I'm sure the Premier) is that it will cast light baits better. I can fling 1/4 oz weight baits further on the Revo. Much over that and the Zillion does as well, and gets better with heavier baits.

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Can not speak for the Premier. But I own a STX and Zillion. For castability Zillion hands down. For drag strength Revo hands down. I suppose you need to decide what you may use it for.

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my opinion is that the daiwa magforce-Z system is easier for a shimano user to pick up than garcia's "linear" magnetic brake. like centrifrugal brakes, the daiwa's magnetic brakes apply more braking the faster the spool spins and less the slower the spool spins. garcias apply the same amount of magnetic brake force regardless of spool speed, resulting in what i call a "sweet spot"...keep your casts within that sweet spot and you'll get phenomenal distance and control but, cast too hard and you won't get enough braking force resulting in a birdsnest; cast too soft and you won't get enough spool speed to overcome the magnetic force resulting in short distances unless you keep adjusting the dial.

oftentimes, if i pick up a revo right after a curado, i get messed up unless i consciously tell myself to be very deliberate in my casting with the revo. i think if all you bring on a trip are revos, then you won't have a problem. but, if you plan to mix together different reels with your shimanos, get the zillion. YMMV

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