If the rods says 10-17lb line it means line strength. You put 65 pound braid on, that is equivalent to 16 pound mono, means line diameter NOT line strength.

ReelMech:

Can you clarify that? "line diameter" vs "line strength" ?

Thanks!

shiloh,

Can you clarify that? "line diameter" vs "line strength" ?

Line Diameter= diameter of the line.

Line Strength= breaking strength of the line.

65 pound braid that is equivalent to 16 pound mono. Has a breaking strength of around 65 pounds pull, with a line diameter equal to 16 pound mono.

I recently spooled up my first braid ever, SpiderWire, onto my baitcaster.  It was a strong line, but if you get a backlash, you can forget getting it out...   Suffice it to say, I removed the last of my SpiderWire last night, I'll never use it again!

shiloh,

Line Diameter= diameter of the line.

Line Strength= breaking strength of the line.

65 pound braid that is equivalent to 16 pound mono. Has a breaking strength of around 65 pounds pull, with a line diameter equal to 16 pound mono.

OK...so the rating on a rod relates to the diameter of the line...that makes sense

But how do you know that 65# braid has a line diameter of 16# mono? Is there some sort of rule of thumb or standard.

To further confuse (me, anyway...), if I look at the charts published Yo Zuri Hybrid, it says that 8# test line has a diameter of .011 in -- and a breaking strength of 12#.

So..."test" is not "breaking strength"...??

Trilene XL is listed at .010 in -- I don't know what it's "breaking strength" is.

So is .010 (or .011) the line diamter standard for 8# mono?

If I really want an 8# line, Yo Zuri Hybrid would presumably allow me to go to a 4# test line, which is supposed to have a breaking strength of 8.5#

The 4# YZH has a diameter of .009 -- which should be a bit different for handling, capacity, etc.

Yep...I am confused...  

I use Cabel's Ripcord Si Plus braid on all my spinning gear when conditions allow it. I like the fact that a 2lb dia. line is 10lb test if you wnat to get your crankbaits and stickbaits a little deeper that's the way to go most of those baits are rated using 10lb dia. line. Also braids have a shelf life of like 100 years. The 5lb dia. is 20lb test. Braids are more resistant to cuts and nicks then say mono is.

Chow

The Pa Angler

shiloh,

OK...so the rating on a rod relates to the diameter of the line...that makes sense

Nope the rating on a rod relates to the line strength. Has absolutely nothing to do with diameter. The only thing on a rod that would dictate the use of a certain line diameter to me, would be the ring sizes in the guides. "Large diameter line, used in small diameter guide rings, would equal more friction and less distance in the cast"

But how do you know that 65# braid has a line diameter of 16# mono? Is there some sort of rule of thumb or standard.

Because I was responding to reelon's use of that example in his post.

Glenn has some great articals here.....

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/selecting_line.html

http://www.bassresource.com/fish/lines.html

http://www.bassresource.com/beginner/line_selection.html

Tight Lines!

I got the 65# relation from the BPS catalog. :

I fish on a tight budget, but braid is the one luxury I afford myself because of the increase in my catch rate.

In my 30 odd years of bass fishing, no other single tackle change has increased my catch rate like braid has.

I spool my spinning rigs with 2/6 and 3/8 fireline and have for 5 years (Just started trying out power pro). I am very happy with it.

IMO...There is no better Senko/Trick worm rig than my 7' M power spinner rigged with fireline, and this is mainly what I use braid for, not the strength so much as the increased sensitivity, feel, zero stretch, and casting distance.

So yes, braid can used on spinning gear. That being said, one has to make adjustments to fishing technique I.E. : Drag must be set lighter and one must be careful not to put too much pressure when playing larger fish as the no stretch line will wallow out the hook.

I have much more to add on the subject, but time is an issue. I'll come back later with more info.

shiloh,

Nope the rating on a rod relates to the line strength. Has absolutely nothing to do with diameter. The only thing on a rod that would dictate the use of a certain line diameter to me, would be the ring sizes in the guides. "Large diameter line, used in small diameter guide rings, would equal more friction and less distance in the cast"

Because I was responding to reelon's use of that example in his post.

Glenn has some great articals here.....

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/selecting_line.html

http://www.bassresource.com/fish/lines.html

http://www.bassresource.com/beginner/line_selection.html

Tight Lines!

Great articles!  I had looked at them a while back, but my sieve-like memory had forgotten a lot.  Geez, life was simpler when there were fewer choices/variables...

8)

I'm still a litttle puzzled ...to quote one of the articles:

"...Strength: This is measured in pounds of force required to break the line. Most lines break at a much higher "pound test" than their labels state."

In my example, YZH 8# test has a rated breaking strength of 12#...

So if I wanted to have a "real" 8# line,  I could "downsize" to 4# YZH, which has a breaking strength of 8.5#...yes? no?

Is this 50% "cushion" typical, or just for YZH?

Thanks...I do appreciate your patience -- and the education.

Bump.

Most lines, including braid, will have the diameter printed on the box ect..the 55lb braid I use has the same diameter as 10 lb mono..

I think this just might be the longest "bump" I have EVER seen!

so if braid will "eat" the guide at the tip of the rod...

what type of replacement tip is recommended?

Most lines, including braid, will have the diameter printed on the box ect..the 55lb braid I use has the same diameter as 10 lb mono..

What is the diameter of 10 lb. mono?  Or 12 lb?  There is no standard.

Good thing we have Dan the Man to answer all the braid questions. It must be nice to be a quality control tester for so many companies.

Holy resurrected threads Batman!

Good thing we have Dan the Man to answer all the braid questions. It must be nice to be a quality control tester for so many companies.

Would be even nicer if he would at least pass along some of the unused line he gets to friends or BR members.

Braid is something I need some help with.

Good thing we have Dan the Man to answer all the braid questions. It must be nice to be a quality control tester for so many companies.

Would be even nicer if he would at least pass along some of the unused line he gets to friends or BR members.

I could....but then what would I use to hang my christmas decorations?!?

That is such a sweet job. I wish I could work part time and get paid to go fishing. Atleast you're boosting your resume for tackle tour.

I use 20 lb. Power Pro green on my spinning reel with no problem. I use an old Mitchell 308 with an old Fenwick 6ft. fiberglass rod. 

I love my mitchell. Really nice reel for the money.

I'm using Power Pro 20 right now, my only complaint is that I can't see it...

I really like what braid I've used just don't have a lot of experience with it.

True, there is no standard. If you compare the samuri 55 lb braid with a dia. of 0.14..and that of big game mono in 12lb it is also 0.14..so I goofed, I should have said 12lb mono..

Most lines, including braid, will have the diameter printed on the box ect..the 55lb braid I use has the same diameter as 10 lb mono..

What is the diameter of 10 lb. mono? Or 12 lb? There is no standard.