What do most anglers think payback should be in a series based on 100 team , $100.00 entry?

How about 5 postions only?

How about 1 postion for every 10? Does this cut into the top paybacks to much ?

What suggestions would you have?

The tournaments that I generally fish all use a '1 for 10' payback, one position for every 10 boats.  That may cut back a little on the money for the guys at the top, but it spreads the money out over more of the field.  In the long run, I think that the larger number of people getting some amount of payback will increase the number of those that want to compete in future tournaments.

Just my $.02 worth,

Hillbilly

All the tournaments that I fish in pay 1 for every 5 boats.  Looks better when trying to get more anglers to fish in.

I think A.B.A. is 1 place per 7 anglers.

JT Bagwell

I think A.B.A. is 1 place per 7 anglers.

JT Bagwell

You're correct....ABA American Fishing Tour pays 1 spot for every 7 anglers entered.  I will be a director this year in Wisconsin.

When you say series, is there a championship involved?   The more places you pay makes it more attractive to recieve a check.

The real question involved is, what is pay back?  90% or 70% or what?

!00 teams at 100 bucks is 10K, and what is the payback?  If no championship, whats your take?

Is big bass optional or part of entry?    

Matt  

I know that the paybacks are in the wrong place.

Paying 10 places just the cream gets any money or the getting close cream.

The cream and the organizer  need place 11-100 to come back and work and pay and work.

For me I want to see entry fee pay back way way down so regular fall off for first 7-10 place and maybe 15-25 get there $100 back.

Then I no that 11-100 will be back next year next week because they got a check.

The interview!!! the cream guys that got a bag should get a few words the cream that didn't get the bag today needs to be thrown off the stage. When they got the bag you talk.

The 11-100 should get the mike get ask some questions generaly made to feel good about there paying and they will be back next year next month and even if they leave for a year or 2 if the interest comes back guess were they will come back.

Garnet

$100 Entry Fee Payback 85% 1 in 5, Big bass $10, 10% goes to chp fund and 5% for misc puttin' it on expenses ie. lake permit, scales, blah blah blah.

Payback Spread for 100 boats pot= $8500 Bigbass=$1000

1st place=30% of pot

2nd Place=10% of pot

3=9%

4=8.5%

5=8%

6=$500

7=$450

8=$300

9=$250

10=$200

Next 5 Places Get ($150)

Final 5 Places Get Entry Fee Back ($100)

$900 Contribution to Chp Fund + MemberShip Fees ($5000)

$450 to Trail Fund or Club Fund

And $1000 Big Bass

I would fish this trail.

FSR and I are on the same page even if theres a competing series that pays  $500 more to win and $300 for second and has a moderately lower entry fee i'm fishing FSR's because in 3 years I will be still fishing with that same deal.

The other series might flashed a lot of entry's for a year or 2 but by the 3 year 25th-100th have moved on to better memory's we got interview on stage that time and they threw the local star of the stage. We cashed 3 cheques for $700 in 2 years and 12 tourneys..........it's a little less to fish that other series but the same guys win every week what do we get.

The truth is the same guys are winning on the other series but your 7-25 finnishers get a taste.

I've seen some series have a later tourney for everbody that didn't cash a cheque..........you can't make this look like charity. you give the interview to these lower guys not every week but a few each week and make your way threw all your guys that are paying the bills.

Now the local hot's will be pissy because they didn't get interview but those guys are going no where the moneys good and theres lots anglers there when they get the big sack you get to thank your sponcer and flash your pearly's.

Garnet

Another Point that Matt Fly talked about the champion ship you let as many as possible fish it but still have a cut. I've seen were the top 20 teams fish free and the next 25 payed 1/2 price $50.

Of course the cream and almost cream are muttering why those back markers should get a change at your money blab blab. They are not likly to win you are likly to give the big money to somebody in the top 25 qualifiers. And it should big money first, just about made a little money second, third not much and anybody passed 5th gets nothing. You need to throw the cream a bone just don't tell them it's chartity.

But it's not charity the boys running the show need money and the cream guys need 20-100 to pay next year.

Or they can take there money now and in 3 years your series is strugling just not enough entry's nobody new showing up ect.

Garnet

I have to agree with Garnet. The young guys that are trying to fish tournaments and come with tournament fees should get an interview on stage. It does have to happen at every tournament but once in awhile would be good. They would certainly come back and fish your tournament.

As for payouts. Adjust your payout to match the entries. If you have a large field pay down 25 places, even if they get their entry fees.